Info about this art glass swan....bowl?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Alisa in Memphis, Mar 30, 2016.

  1. First post! I do want to thank you all for the very warm welcome I got!
    Can anyone help me with identifying where this came from. Or, even WHAT it is?! Also, the glass technique? The grooves are deep, and I don't think swan web 2.JPG it's for flowers. It's too small to be for fruit or the like, and the grooves are not large enough for a cigarette. It's fairly large - about 12" in diameter and 9" high. Thanks!
     
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  2. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Sooooooooooooo... we have a stylized swan landing in a... giant water lily?
    I like it!
    Glassies here may want a picture of underside...
     
  3. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    My thoughts for what it is worth.

    It would say it is an ashtray. It could possibly be Murano. There is one almost identical to yours on Ebay. The one on Ebay claims to be Murano, but honestly, the quality doesn't appear to be right. I would like to see the base on yours. Also, are those bumps on the petals (3 on each petal) or are they internal bubbles?
     
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  4. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

  5. I've done some research on it, and it is definitely not Murano. The bumps are raised, as you can see better in the photo here. The closest I came to an ID (after looking at tons of photos) is Russian, or maybe Mexican. I found the little round top knobs on the wings in a lot of Russian glass.
    The grooves are too narrow for a cigarette, though that was my first thought. If you put a cig in one it would roll out and burn the house down! :)
    (BTW, is it better to post photos as the full image, or as thumbnails?) Thanks, y'all! swan web 6.JPG swan web 7.JPG
     
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  6. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Alisa,

    Thank you for the additional pics. They do help. After seeing the bottom in your piece as well as the Ebay one, I would have to agree not Murano. The base is not as polished as you would see on finer pieces.

    Sorry, I couldnt be more help.
     
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  7. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Yes, yours is a nicer example for sure. Those raised bumps are quite the additional detail.
     
  8. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    It could be an ashtray. The twin on eBay is enlargeable and makes me think yes.

    As for Murano, that's a familiar refrain, but I very much doubt it due to the not great close ups on eBay. Way too many bubbles and what might be dirt in the glass.

    For a seller who doesn't know a swan from a goose or a duck I will give him the courtesy of accepting that it's a Vintage 8.5" Green White " SWAN GOOSE DUCK BIRD " Studio Murano Type Ash Tray", but that's about all.

    THIS WAS BEING TYPED AS THE NEW PICS WERE ADDED. THANKS FOR THOSE, BUT DOESN'T CHANGE MY NOTES. EXCEPT NOT ASHTRAY.
     
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  9. KingofThings

    KingofThings Well-Known Member

    Simply a candy dish?
     
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  10. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Collectors Weekly had a piece on Murano awhile back. My experience is that if you look at enough of the real thing, you get to be familiar with how it should look. Not an expert, by any means, but at least to get an inkling.

    http://www.collectorsweekly.com/art-glass/italian/stories
     
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  11. I appreciate any help! I have looked on eBay off and on, but have not been able to find one even remotely close.
     
  12. Thanks for the link. I do know a bit about glass, and it drives me crazy to see all the listings on eBay for "Murano". A lot of people also don't understand that Murano is a place where there are a LOT of glassmakers, and not just one company.
     
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  13. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    The details like the feathers and the beak and the eyes lead me to think its better than a Chinese knock off .I think it could be Murano , though that's a term that's gotten rather generic now . I think it is a candy dish or the like . I also think its very pretty and Id have jumped on it ! I know there was an American company that made swans like this ( sooner ? ) .
     
  14. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    Sorry, Alisa, not sure what you mean. Remotely close to what?

    As for Murano, the Italian island, there are maybe a thousand different glass makers still there, mostly small ones, and extremely few use the registered trademark "Murano." Maybe they realize that could get hi-jacked and they prefer to just keep going with their reputation as true artists. In the meantime venues like eBay will continue offering "murano glass" at maybe a hundred times the possible output.
     
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  15. Sorry for being unclear. I meant this was the first eBay ad that I've seen that is close to my swan, and I've searched before.
     
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  16. KingofThings

    KingofThings Well-Known Member

    Nothing here.....
     
  17. I don't think it's a knockoff either. I got it for a song ($10) - it was pushed way to the back of a shelf in an antique mall. A candy dish does sound like the most plausible use for it. I don't eat candy, so I never think about that. :)
    I'll check out Sooner, thanks!
     
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  18. KingofThings

    KingofThings Well-Known Member

    I guessed candy dish earlier because it looks like the 'Ribbon' candy we always had around in a bowl/dish in the 50s and early 60s. I still have my Grandma's bowl it was in and though well packed, it has somehow cracked in storage. :(
     
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  19. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    Johnny, swans might be world wide second most feathered creature made in glass.

    U.S. glass companies have been making them since day one.

    The "Block Swan" by Challinor Taylor, c 1891, was probably my most admired out of over 500 pieces.
     
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