Featured Brooch & Pendants

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Marote, Feb 15, 2025.

  1. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    Bought these 3 today:
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    Can't find any marks on this one.

    Also no marks on:
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    upload_2025-2-16_1-15-4.jpeg
    upload_2025-2-16_1-11-35.jpeg

    And on this one
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    upload_2025-2-16_1-11-2.jpeg upload_2025-2-16_1-10-40.jpeg
    I think there's the Dutch sword mark
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    Your thoughts please :)
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2025
  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The last one is definitely silver. The glass in the setting is trying hard to be iris glass, but only has two colors;it's missing the green stripe. I wouldn't be surprised if the flowers in the basket were also silver. Can we see the back of the first one?
     
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  3. Curioser

    Curioser Well-Known Member

    Can we see back of first brooch? The basket looks silver-plate with rhinestones. The last piece has Iris glass insert, too bad about chip. Have you looked at .925-1000 site for the last mark?
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Looks like a take on a 'Zeeuwse knoop', Zeeland button. Could you photograph it against a light background please, preferably white.
    The flower basket looks plated, but again, a light background would help a lot. It also makes it easier to take in-focus photos. Remember, you have it in hand, we don't.
    Maybe I'm seeing it wrong, but is it missing a clasp hook?
    Yes, there is. Dutch made in the 1920s, set with Bohemian 'Rheinkiesel' or iris glass. The fineness is most likely .833.
    It is genuine Bohemian 'Rheinkiesel' or iris glass. It is just cut in such a way that there is no green. Most of my Rheinkiesel glass jewellery, bought in Germany and the Netherlands, has this colour play. I guess it is a matter of choice when making or cutting the glass.

    In this (very slow) video are also a few stones without green, although it isn't mentioned. Only watch if you can handle it, she sounds a bit depressed:(, or maybe just half asleep:

     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2025
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  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Huh. I've never seen any with only two colors, no matter how old it was. Should have known the Dutch would have to be different!
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yup, always contrary.:rolleyes::playful:
     
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  7. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    I thought it had been included yesterday, but apparently it was left out, as I already had reached the max no. of pics.
    Photos were taken at night, so I was holding a lamp in one hand, while trying to take the pics with my phone in the other hand, so it was hard to get it in-focus due to the annoying autofocus that shits the focus at every small movement of the phone or light. :shifty:
    Here are the additional pics (with a white background :) but taken after sunset, so poor lighting :sorry:)
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    upload_2025-2-16_23-40-19.jpeg upload_2025-2-16_23-40-38.jpeg

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    upload_2025-2-16_23-41-27.jpeg
    upload_2025-2-16_23-42-53.jpeg
    upload_2025-2-16_23-43-17.jpeg

    When looking at it at a certain angle, I do see a bit of green.
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    upload_2025-2-16_23-43-41.jpeg

    I will try to take better pics tomorrow, during the day. Hopefully it will be a sunny day like today :)

    Thanks for the info :)
     
  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Aha - I see green in the iris glass! It could run, but it couldn't hide!
     
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  9. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

  10. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    https://www.etsy.com/listing/1569213191
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    "Large Antique 835 Silver Filigree Brooch with Old Diamond Cut Simili Crystals, Dutch Heritage Jewelry"
    "We could not find a hallmark, the brooch was professionally tested for 835 silver."
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I guess the Zeeuwse knoop-like pendant was originally a brooch. The pin probably broke, the hinge was filed off and the C-clasp was bent to the side to create a loop. Someone soldered an extra plate to support the wire construction so it could hold the weight. That is not original.
    While balancing on one leg?:angelic:

    The last lot of photos you took are in bright sunlight. Great for creating a harsh contrasting effect, impossible to see what you are actually looking at.:wacky:

    Do you see the difference between the photos you took and the photos in the Etsy listing? They use a plain light background, well lit but no bright sunlight.
    Few of us are professional photographers, but if you can come close to the Etsy photos it would be a great help for future jewellery shots.:)
     
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  12. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    And on top of a ladder :D

    Hard to find a good spot, due to shadows, but I'll give it another try :)
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a nice sunny day, try inside, on a piece of paper near a window, no direct sunlight.

    Although I don't think we have anything to add. Pendants are silver, brooches are likely plated.
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2025
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  14. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

  15. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    True, but it is a good exercise for future pics :)
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    And you did very well!:)
     
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  17. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    With the last pics, I placed them on the back of an old dictionary :)

    Before I took those pics, I gave it another shot with a piece of white paper, out of direct sunlight. I was still getting a shadow, even when I placed it in the shadow of a box and I couldn't understand why...
    But apparently the sunlight was reflected on a leg of my desk :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ah yes, desk legs, notorious troublemakers.:pompous::playful:

    Next time you could try the piece of paper on the dictionary.;) That way you don't get that rough weave which can distract from the jewellery.
    You will get some shadow, that is almost inevitable even in the best pics. But that is not a problem, as long as you don't have a stark contrast.
     
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  19. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    Will do!
    Thank you for this crash course in jewelry photography :)
     
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  20. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    I played it at 1.75x speed. Worked great!
     
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