Featured Minton high relief jug

Picked this up from the guy who liked to smash ornaments this morning. Amazed it's in one piece. A few sites attributing it to Minton although I've never come across this back stamp by them before. An impressed 'No. 16'

 

It's amazing so many have survived. https://www.reynardine.co.uk/RMJ/Minton.html

 

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https://www.rubylane.com/item/1682041-RL-773/Minton-Silenus-Bacchus-Molded-Pitcher-1839

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/335926767406

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/383389640819

 

Oooh thanks for the resource. That makes mine 'Silenus' then

 

They all look in fantastic condition too. The type of ceramic they used doesn't seem to age.

 

Chinois- Nice jug,but that intro really grabbed me ! Can you Tell us more about this legendary 'Smasher' ?

 

Aha. Some guy on the market who does house clearances. He seems to sell at low prices to drive high volumes of sales when it comes to bric a brac. As a consequence some lovely items get destroyed.

 

I would give Mr Smasher my telephone number with instructions to call me before any further smashing takes place. At least you might get a crack at a few good pieces. No pun intended.

 

Sold the jug last week and got this back today

"Good afternoon, thank you for sending the jug - it was quick delivery and very well packed. Sadly, it has been heavily restored with spray glaze to disguise cracks across the base and up both sides. I appreciate you may not have been aware of this but I have been dealing in relief moulded jugs for 40 years and can easily see such faults. Out of courtesy, I have contacted you directly for your comments prior to informing eBay. For your info, I attached two photos. Many thanks,"



Now that explains the amazing condition of it. Deep sigh.

 

Damn & Triple Damn Chinois ! Still,the fellow seems civil about the whole thing (so far ?).
Two thoughts-
1. Would've been nice,as a 40 year Minton Vet,if he could've seen these flaws in the pics before bidding,BUT-there's a fair amount of diff btw in- person examination and photos.
2. He states-''Out of courtesy, I have contacted you directly for your comments prior to informing eBay.'' I guess this means it could still be a 'positive feedback' situation pending settlement of claim ?
40 years ago on Ebay we'd sometimes handle these matters privately-course things have changed.

 

how come your photo is flat , and his is shiny ?
I can see the line under the 12 on your shot , so how come Mr 40 years ... didn't..
what type of spray glaze doesn't't affect the depth and clarity of the impressed numbers..?

He don't want it no more...so I guess that's that..

 

You can clearly see the line across the base in the listing. I didn't notice it as I am naive. If he has the experience though I agree he should have noticed it in the listing. Maybe fishing for a freeby? My options were limited. I've refunded anyway and told him to keep it. My options were limited and I doubt I would get much for a cut and shut jug. I resisted My usual sarcastic rhetoric as I already have one -ve feedback this month from saying my true thoughts.

 

With eBay you have to swallow a lot sometimes, because their feedback system is bizarre.

 

I would have asked him to return it........

 

Obviously a 40 year unimpeachable expert could've spotted this a mile away-'easily' as he stated. Why they purchased it's the true mystery.
It least it wasn't a 1K piece and you've learned a bit about ceramic repairs.
PS-All your Ebay clientele can access this forum.

 

Yes the jug was supposed to be £5 and he threw it in my basket for nothing. So it cost me £5.50 in postage.

They may well be among us. They have left +be feedback now so I can call them what I like. I'll leave it at that though.

 

Win/Win Mate ! There's a fair amount of straight-shooters on Ebay, Buyers & Sellers.
All you can do is be as honest & thorough as humanly possible-document any flaws or puzzling areas.
PS-Our Potties & Glassies here have forgotten more than I'll ever know, and can give you all the repair detection tricks.