Featured Oil or Kerosene Lamp ID, 1876- Help please?

I'm hoping y'all don't mind taking a look and sharing your hard earned knowledge. I've been searching for years and still don't feel confident about antique lamps yet. I apologize, I do have a lot of questions --The brass collar says Patented April 11 1876- is that an indicator of when the lamp was made or just that one piece/part? --Is this pieced together or original? If it is pieced together, how can I find who made the lamp and the parts? --Is there anything it needs or does everything appear to be here? Is the clear part in the daisy and dot pattern & the shade coin dot or thumbprint? It reminds me of Fenton but I don't want to get my hopes up .. am I close at all? Thank you so much for taking the time to read this!

 

Welcome aboard! People with other knowledge will be along shortly, but I can tell you that the Patent date most often isn’t the date something was made. It’s literally the date the Patent Office assigned them a patent for the design used, thus giving them (temporarily) the sole right to use it. That said, it does tell you it wasn’t made before that date, thus narrowing the time frame.

The patent was almost certainly for the functional parts of the lamp (the parts that involve flame, adjustment, and fuel delivery) as the glass parts were common enough at the time that they couldn’t have gotten a patent for them.

Other than that, all I can say is that it’s really cool.

 

Thank you so much! That is helpful. I'm taking notes!

 

No help from me, but that is the prettiest one I've ever seen!

 

Even better, it seems entirely intact. I bet @Ghopper1924 would give it house room. Dozens if not hundreds of companies made them, so without a name there isn't much hope of figuring out whodunnit. Lamps like this were a household necessity and everyone who could had several.

 

Hi @Raychel
That’s a striking lamp, and I’d be thrilled to own it. Yes, it could not have been made before 1876 but it could be later. I have several pieces of dark amethyst glass from the 1880s. It will be very difficult to tell who made the lamp parts without labeling, but you can search online and/or in reference libraries for 19th Century lamp catalogs that may help.
I have an 1890s lamp from Bradley and Hubbard with 3 different labels on the metal working parts. The glass portions are likely made by others unless the lamp company was large and contained glass blowing facilities.
I would call your lampshade thumbprint, likely from ca. 1880s, and original, including the oil reservoir. It’s a beauty!

 

Hi,
In what country did you find this lamp? Also, if you can post a closer pic of the font pattern, that might be the key.

 

Not sure it's really clear enough after enlarged, but maybe some one of the 'glassies' can identify the pattern??

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Virginia, US Thank you!

 

Hi! Thank you! I really wish I knew it's history before I got it. I wasn't expecting it to be all original now I'm even more amazed at it's condition- the only flaw is the little dent on the brass collar in the photo. You said it's an oil lamp, not kerosene, or is that the same thing?
I have searched catalogs off and on for atleast 10 years and haven't found this exact base or combination of parts. It's also very possible missed it. I was also leaning towards Bradley and Hubbard. I'm going to take a closer look at it and see if I missed a mark somewhere.
I did find who got the patent with the original sketch he submitted- it was Bennet B Schneider for "Improvement in Lamp Collars, Oil lamp collar with grooves for oil return".
it has a Queen Anne #2 burner. The dial says Scovill Mfg Co. I don't know if any of that helps
I don't know if it's allowed to discuss this- if it's not, I'll delete it but I have an Etsy shop & just never really wanted to put this in it until our air conditioner just died. Before I also perish in this heat, I must let some of my favorites go. (Sounds dramatic but it's really really hot lol)
You all have been wonderful! Im excited to learn more about it.

 

I took the quote off since my message was getting long and think it doesn't show as a reply to you but it's here somewhere

 

No, that has no significance in determining a maker of the lamp.

Speaking of the burner, it appears from the one more recent photo that this 'burner' actually has a lightbulb in it. If so, you could always get a period replacement to give it a proper burner once again.

 

Ok, thank you! I thought Scovill was just from the burner or something easily switched out but I read somewhere that it's one way to identify the maker. Now I know why I kept hitting a brick wall down that route.

Yes, there was a bulb on it when I got it but I was just barely sitting in there and the cord hung from the bulb. I took it off and if I remember correctly it didn't appear to alter what was already there but I'm going to double check.

 

I should have said, "in this case." There are certainly cases where the burner is made by the lamp manufacturer.

It's a very pretty lamp, and that color is desirable.

 

It's ok, I understood.

Thank you! When I was taking it to the checkout counter, a few different people stopped to look or comment. One said she hoped I really liked it since it was a shame it wasn't one of the "good ones". I didn't know if it was good or bad but I loved it and was pretty sure she just wanted me to put it back.

 

I think you're right. I don't collect lamps and I'd have bagged that one.

 

folks can be so petty !!!!!!
it's a lovely lamp !!!!

 

I'm stumped but still looking. I have a few more lamp books to check. Really helps to refresh my memory doing so, so thank you .
There is that one member that seems to know everything about pattern glass....