Just an old flower pot...

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Frank, Jul 7, 2025.

  1. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    This heavy solid brass or bronze pot belonged to my great-grandmother, or so I was told. My mother kept it on her hearth full of fat pine kindling, but my wife and I use it as a jardiniere, which I believe was its original purpose. I haven't weighed it, but it's 8 inches tall, and 10 1/4 inches across.
    It was getting a bit grungy looking, so I gave it a going over with Brasso the other day. It's the first time in years that I've taken a close look at it, and I was impressed with the detail. I believe it was probably cast and finished by hand. Some of the detail also appears to have been by hand. I thought I really ought to try to learn more about it, and while an internet search gives me similar items, I thought I'd approach the experts here.

    I'd like to know roughly how old it might be. If it belonged to my great-grandmother, it's possible that she bought it while my great-grandfather was posted to Angel Island in San Francisco with the Marine Hospital Service around the turn of the last century.

    Is it Chinese or Japanese? I can't find any markings on it at all.
    Does it appear to be brass, or bronze?

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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    No Brasso! No!! No!!! NO!!!! You'll destroy the patina!

    It's beautiful, and my guess is Japanese.
     
  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    If I had to guess I'd say Japanese. The dragons and clouds were Chinese first, but turn up in both places. No Brasso on that thing; it would ruin it. Ketchup the green off the inside if it bothers you, but otherwise I'd just hit it with a damp cloth.
     
  4. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    The images are post-Brasso. I was very sparing in my use of it, but the outside was looking like the inside. A quick application and rub with a cloth, and immediately rinsed off. I wanted to protect the patina on the exterior, but I don't plan to do anything at all to the inside.
     
  5. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    I was very careful about how I used the Brasso, and these photos are after I finished. No plans to do anything further.
     
  6. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    @Frank I would've loved to have seen your Granny's house-looks like she was quite a refined belle.
     
  7. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    I wish I could've seen it, too. She passed away before I was born. I've got photos of her, though, and she was a looker, too!
     
  8. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Did she live in a grand old Southern mansion ?
     
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  9. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    another vote for japanese, i'd think meiji period too. Looks like brass by the way the brown has cleaned on the outer sides
     
  10. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    This was her home in Birmingham. As I mentioned, she died before I was born, and the house was sold. I've seen the outside, but never the interior. 9f91f2ef1333604ee13ce319285a2c70-cc_ft_768.jpg
     
  11. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That was a NICE house! Probably still is.
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    as they say....... That's Smashing !!!!
     
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  13. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Yikes-quite a gentile pad Frank.I bet you could write a book about your Grandma.
     
  14. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    Actually, she was my great-grandmother.
    Augusta Sharpe Jordan, March, 1876 - Jan. 1959.

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    Her wedding photo, approximately 1895.

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    With a friend in 1900.

    She was lovely, wasn't she? I wish I'd known her.
     
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  15. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    She was an exquisite looking lady and from what I can tell from that amazing candid photo graceful and with a good sense of humor ! By the way-that's one of the most spontaneous candid antique photos I think I've ever seen-looks like she's about to jump off the page and enchant somebody.
     
  16. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    very beautiful, love that wedding day photo, she reminds me slightly of Keira knightly, especially in pride and prejudice

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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Japanese, and as charlie said, Meiji period. A beautiful cachepot/planter.
    This is considered bronze, but Asian bronzes are a slightly different alloy from Western bronze.

    If you have a plant in it, which it was made for, it is best to have it on a saucer so the inside of the cachepot doesn't get wet.
    And no Brasso.:playful:
    Yes, she was. A beauty and a personality.
     
  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    She looks like she was a trip. Probably would have fit in here!
     
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  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    that pot looks too good not to be marked...:wideyed:
     
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  20. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Please note: how extremely small-waisted she was!
    Imagine how much effort (an' perhaps Whale-bone) went into that tiny waist...an' at what cost in comfort an' health (immediate an' future)!
     
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