Featured Age of this diamond & turquoise ring?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Curioser, Aug 16, 2025.

  1. Curioser

    Curioser Well-Known Member

    I first thought this 14K gold diamond & turquoise ring was Victorian due to the high basket setting. But, the appraisal stated the diamonds are brilliant-cut. Maybe the appraiser made an error, or maybe the ring really wasn't made in the 19th century.

    It's marked "585" so I's assuming European? No other marks. It's 1 1/4" tall--and really sparkles in the light! Thanks for your thoughts! 14K_Turquoise_Diamond_tall_ring_9.JPG

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  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It doesn't "smell" really old to me. The diamond settings look newer. I'm not the expert on Euro stuff though. It only has the purity mark and not full hallmarks, so origin is a puzzle. The Italians, French, Portuguese etc usually mark the hobgoblins out of their pieces.
     
  3. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    The photo is too out of focus to see the type of diamond cut.
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Pretty Bling.... I like the jewellers choice of matched turquoise ....
    the work on the back looks space age !
     
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  5. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Why it seems to me that the band is not original to the ring/the head an addition?
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    cuz the top looks very nice and proper and the bottom looks like some amateur used a wedding band and gold wire to stick it all together !!!!
    now that you mention it.....;)
     
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  7. NanaB

    NanaB Well-Known Member

    That would make such a pretty pendant!
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Very attractive, but a wedding band marriage imo.;) Stylewise the front looks 1960s to me, but I am no specialist in modern jewellery.
    Very likely. Is that the only mark? The font and cartouche of the 585 mark look Dutch, but if Dutch there will always be a tiny oakleaf mark as well. And if it started life as a wedding band, there would likely be a brand logo/name as well.
    The French and Portuguese have been very good markers for a long time. The Italians not so much, although more recently they have seen the error of their ways.;)
    Agree. Not unusual, I have a 1930s Dutch wedding band which was mounted with a four leaf clover shape set with Bohemian garnets. That conversion looks much more professional though.
     
  9. Marko

    Marko Well-Known Member

    It's gorgeous, but I think it started out as a brooch. You might want to have it secured to the band better.
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    My impression as well.
     
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  11. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    My first thought was that it's such an unusual setting, so maybe people are on to something. And I know people are suggesting that this was once a brooch, can you see any evidence that there was once a clasp on the top part that people are suggesting was a brooch? Like evidence a clasp was removed? It seems like the arms are coming in at different angles and I'm not sure how this would have had a clasp that we aren't seeing evidence of having been removed. Just throwing some questions out there!

    I'm no expert, could be totally wrong, but assumed it was made like this.

    It's a killer ring in any case. Stunning!

    @Curioser Is it in your possession or is it something you were thinking about buying? If you have it maybe a jeweler could eye-ball it.
     
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  12. Marko

    Marko Well-Known Member

    I don't think it would be set like this soldered to a band if it started out as a ring. I have aring like this, a diamond mermaid cufflink was soldered to a plain band. It came off very easily had to have it redone. Still dont trust the solder job. Any pin findings could be removed by a skilled jeweler without a trace.
     
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  13. Marko

    Marko Well-Known Member

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  14. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    I would check that area Marko circled. Is it rough at all or just a shadow? It does look dull in the photo.

    Agree, if this has been soldered, you don't want it popping off! If you have purchased it, definitely have a jeweler check it. :)
     
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  15. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Are we all sure those sky-blue oval cabs are turquoise?
    No disrespect intended...just askin'!
     
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  16. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Hmmm, the prongs of the cage of the front bit are each attached separately at different places around the band. Would someone have gone to all that trouble in attaching a brooch to a plain band in such a way?
    Just wondering, I know nothing about this kind of stuff.

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  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    someone , who was tasked to turn this into a ring........... and had a neat idea.... but not the proper skills !!! imo....
     
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  18. Curioser

    Curioser Well-Known Member

    The appraiser stated the diamonds were brilliant cut. I'm not sure I can get very close and clear on individual diamonds. That person also stated the turquoise were natural. The appraiser has a GIA G.D., graduate diamonds diploma. Maybe not super familiar with older jewelry or re-worked pieces.

    There is a bit of roughness in the area Marko circled. Could be part of a brooch clasp or pin stem hinge was there. However, I don't see any corresponding rough part on the other end. I don't know how the pin could have been attached.

    The basket "sticks" are very securely attached to both the top and bottom of the band in at least 12 places. They are ridiculously secure!
     
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  19. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    If the diamonds are brilliant they would be sometime after 1920.
     
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  20. Marko

    Marko Well-Known Member

    Perhaps a pendant?
     
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