Help Dating Vista Alegre Bottle

Hello,

I recently found this Vista Alegre bottle at a sale and would appreciate any help determining it's date. I've researched but have been unable to find the same mark. I appreciate any help you're able to offer.

Thank you

 

This page says that a trademark application for that mark was filed in 1973, approved in 1976, and expired in 1997.
https://trademark.trademarkia.com/va-vista-alegre-portugal-72457926.html

I hope this helps!

I'm not sure how to translate the text in the rectangle under the mark. Google Translate says it is Vista Alegre painting class -- which doesn't make much sense in that context. Unless they were running a class of students?

And welcome to Antiquers, @finding_antiques !

 

Fig, that's probably it. I read on line where Vista Alegre founded and still runs a Famous Painting School with world renowned artists.

 

Hello @Figtree3 and @ola402,

Thank you both for your replies. The trademark site @Figtree3 linked is quite helpful and will be a great resource for future research. Based on the dates listed there I dug a bit deeper and found a blog post outlining the Vista Alegre makers marks - mark number 34 matches my piece and appears to have been used from 1971 - 1980.

http://traposcacosevelharias.blogspot.com/2011/07/marcas-ou-carimbos-da-fabrica-de.html

I'll dig deeper into the painting school as well and see what I'm able to come up with. I appreciate the welcome - I look forward to sharing and learning with everyone here!

 

Very good detective work. Thanks for the follow up!

 

I see some "Aula de Pintura" pieces referred to as being part of a "series." Think perhaps they're reissued designs but can't find anything to support that.

Debora

 

Thank you Debora, I'll add that clue to my search list.

 

No, I don't think they're reissues. But, interestingly, items marked "Aula de Pintura" range from the grand to the not so. Don't see what they have in common. Here's a couple examples.

Debora



https://issuu.com/palaciodocorreiovelho/docs/l361_catalogodigital/114



https://www.custojusto.pt/porto/coleccoes/3-mini-caixas-vista-alegre-aula-de-pintura-30199319

 

I think, perhaps, Aula de Pintura indicates a limited edition series item but can't find confirmation on line. Why don't you ask the company? (And then we'll all know!) Here's a list of contacts; I suggest you contact the museum. And not to worry... Everyone in Portugal speaks beautiful English.

https://vistaalegre.com/us/t/Contacts_Corporate

Debora

 

Good finds - the pieces in that catalog are impressive. I think this relates to what @ola402 mentioned in his reply. "Aula de Pintura" roughly translates to 'painting class' so these might be related in that way?

 

Great idea - sending an email now.

 

Found a vintage photograph of it. But do think the term is being used in a branding sense rather than a literal sense.

Debora



https://www.researchgate.net/figure...ular-Ha-noticias-de-uma-aula-a_fig3_320941462

 

I shoved all the words in google translate. From reading it and other English articles, it seems as if the school was created as part of an over arching plan to develop the village and people surrounding the factory. They said that the work was long and hard and didn't pay much. So to keep workers, they provided sources of development and recreation around the factory. The school was part of this and where workers learned to paint and decorate with gold, especially women who were deemed to be more adept at the work. So why all the men in the photo? Maybe they are the instructors, learning from a visiting well renowned artist.

The school was supposed to be very famous, well known so the branding thing may be right. It reminds me of the work that came out of pottery schools, architectural schools, painting schools etc in this country. Like Newcomb pottery for instance.

So the mark including the info about the school could really mean "hand painted in the famous Vista Alegre school of talented decorators" or something like that which means hand painted in house (and you know how good we are!). Our history includes this famous historical school!

 

Thank you @ola402 - I've sent an email to the Vista Alegre Museum and have asked for clarification on the mark and a couple of other questions. I'll be sure to post their reply.