Featured Cut Glass Cologne bottle ID help

From my father’s glass collection. Can anyone identify this? I think it is a cologne bottle with fan and diamond motifs. (The closest I have found is Libbey Corinthian c. 1910 ABP on ETSY, but the Libbey has a Hobstar in one view of the side & a signature.) Could this be American Brillant Period? Another Libbey pattern? What is it?

Measurements: 4 ¼ inches high with stopper, 3 ¼ inches high bottle without stopper, c. 3 1/8 inches wide/diameter. Stopper is c. 1 3/8 inch long, but the shank is broken so that is not the original length.

The ETSY ad said, “Replacement Stopper,” which led me to wonder: Which is worse for value: a replacement stopper or a stopper with a broken shank?

Thank you very much for your insights.

 

Imho: if what you have is original, broken or not, it's better than a replacement...unless that replacement is identical to the original, an' in better condition.

That is a very lovely bottle, even if it were without a stopper!

 

My guess is that is not the original stopper, but think you're right about its being a cologne bottle for a vanity top.

 

The stopper looks out of proportion. Pretty bottle though.

 

That may be because the missing shank causes it to sit lower in the bottle, or it may be the angle of the photo. When I aimed straight at the bottle the star on the bottom showed through and looked like it was on the side. I thought the most important thing for ID was to show the cut patterns on the side so I angled the photo upwards a bit. (If that makes any sense.)

 

I didn't even consider that it was not the original stopper. But I probably will not know for sure unless I can ID the bottle. Any ideas?

 

I can't say for sure one way or the other, but many of the cut glass & pressed glass bottles had the faceted stoppers. That is why you see so many in the listings that are selling a lot of assorted stoppers.

Some companies did engrave or acid etch numbers on both the stopper & bottle when they were made so that the correct stopper went into the correct bottle. The numbers are usually extremely tiny & could be found on the neck or the bottom of the bottle. Unfortunately, the number on the stopper is usually on the stub.

 

I had no idea that you could sell stoppers. I found some very small ones without bottles in the cabinet.

 

Sure can. They get lost of broken often. There's a market.

 

My mother had a whole pressed glass bowl of orphan stoppers she had just because they were pretty. Most were of the solid faceted type like the one in your bottle. They have a higher survival rate than the vessels they stoppered.

 

This one looks very similar, though not exactly the same, so I wonder if it's a consideration for the same maker.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1862575883/libbey-abp-cut-crystal-cologne-bottle

 

Yes. Thank you. That is the Libbey Corinthian listing that I found. At first I thought "That's it!" But later, I noticed the images that showed a hobstar on the side; it alternates diamonds & hobstars, rather than diamonds & fans. So, if mine is another Libbey AB bottle, how do I look it up? (I did not see a Libbey signature on the bottom--but I do not know how small or hidden that may be. Glass marks are still mysterious to me.)

 

DUH, sorry, my bad for not reading the details in your initial post closely enough!

 

I probably should have cited the url, rather than just vague "etsy listing." It is helpful to know we are thinking in the same direction. I just do not know how to research cut glass patterns/manufacturers and match then to my items.

 

I think the stopper was supposed to rise a bit above the lip, maybe like this one: https://www.replacements.com/crystal-libbey-glass-company-brilliant/c/368104

 

That one looks better.

 

I searched "perfume bottle stoppers lot" on eBay & saw several that had faceted-style stoppers included. You may be able to message the sellers for measurements & find one that will fit the bottle.

I checked my stash & don't have any of this style at this time.

 

I am still trying to ID the bottle. I submitted it to American Brillant Period Cut Glass Discussion Group on FB, but the post is pending. They should be able to tell me if it is AB or not if they permit the post. So far, one submitted piece is late AB--another not (the trumpet vases I first submitted here--no idea where to look next).

 

Keep us posted.