2 Floral Paintings

These are both 12.5" x 10" (32x25 cm) and seem to have age. I removed the paper backing on one, but found nothing. Google lens identified the magnolia one as being after Everett Shinn.





Here's the online one:



What do you think is going on with these? A talented amateur who painted existing pieces? Any guess as to how old? I tried using the Q-tip and saliva to clean some but it didn't make much difference.

All comments appreciated!

Thanks.



Oh and I had an old frame (well, part of an old frame) that fit:

 

Looks like the anemone(?) one is by the same painter.