Featured Large Ludwig Moser Amethyst Vase; Deco?

This is ~19 1/4" tall, with a rim diameter of ~8 5/16", foot diameter of ~4 3/4", the gold band is ~3" high. Weight is ~4 1/4 Kg (9.34 Lb)
The rim is ground, chamfered in & out, an' polished; I'm surprised that there is no damage to it, or anywhere else; the foot has some honest wear, but no pontil.
As you can see it is really needful of washing, as drips, hand & fingerprints etc. are everywhere on it, inside & out; all I've done is dust the ages of lint an'debris from the inside, after years of sitting upright on the floor where it was displayed/neglected. Its size an' weight make it challenging for me to handle, especially when it will be wet an' slick with soap! I'll persevere, though...it'll gleam soon. It was essentially a gift, as the fellow wanted rid of it; $10, an' he wouldn't take the $20 I offered but gave me a ten in change!

I have an age sense of 1st quarter 20th C...but I'm guessing. Is it correctly Art Deco, or? Image search has lots of roughly similar shapes an' patterns, in amber as well as amethyst, by Moser; but I've found nothing as large. Probably time to check eBay for past sales. Your comments an' suggestions are sought, an' most welcome. Thanks for lookin'!

 

Decoration may be Trojan War-inspired.

 

Yes...looks more Greek than Roman.

 

Fantastically beautiful vase! Good price too.

 

Nice lump. Certainly got some age with that wear on the base. And i reckon youre right, art deco, 1920's 30's

 

If it is Moser glassworks crystal it looks like the key words you need are Fipop Series, introduced circa 1914 and Oroplastic, regarding the frieze. I saw one seller spelling it Oroplastique.

Snooping around the internet I found one with a Bohemia Czechoslovakia sticker and another one with a French Baccarat sticker... So, could be something hinky going on here.

The link below is a springboard to the Moser Glass customer service email. They say you can send pictures and they will ID for you, as in yes it is Moser or no it isn't.
https://www.moser.com/en/faq/product-identification/moser-crystal-identification

 

Great...Thank you, Laura!
In my initial research I noted the word Oroplastic but didn't recognize the meaning as it wasn't further described.
I'll use your Moser CS link just to be sure, but feel pretty confident about what it is.
I'm gonna wait for warmer weather to approach polishing the grime from it...it's way too large for my kitchen sink, an' I have a large wooden table outside that will afford better security as I work at it.

 

@wlwhittier
Here is a link to a similar vase as yours. It has some information on its origin.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/137043015169

 

Thank you...but it's one of those links that doesn't go anywhere when selected...I've tried several ways to use it; all have been unsuccessful.

 

There is a trick to it. When you click on the link, go to the right of the bar to the second https etc. Delete everything before that, and click again. You should be able to see the page.

 

Ahh...how delightfully simple, once explained.
Thank You AJ, once again!

 

did you message the Moser company and ask about your piece?

 

Yes ma'm, I did...but only just today. The site was handy to use, I included many specifics...an' thanked them for their service!
Their response will be posted right here when it arrives.

 

...an' here is their response.

Dear Mr. Whittier,
Below is the statement of our glass expert:

The vase in the photos is not a product of the Moser glassworks.
The vase does not correspond to our products in terms of shape, color, or design of the gilded etching.
The gilding is made with shiny gold. At Moser, we use exclusively hand-polished matte gold.

With best regards
Lucie Duchková
Customer Service Specialist
MOSER, a.s.
M: +420 734 410 471

 

Ah, shiny gilding -- the giveaway!

 

How can you tell the difference between shiny gold and hand polished matte? Wouldn't hand polished matte be shiny?

 

I stumbled over that too...but this detail is trifling beside the 'shape or color' rejection. I am content, an' will make the vase a gift, which I'm sure will be well received. Moser or not, it's quite a piece of early 20th C glass.

 

I know how you feel. I suffered the same rejection myself over my lump o glass. I hope you find some flowers big enough to fill it.

 

LauraGarnet02 wrote that... so, more possibilities?

I love the vase, @wlwhittier . You are very lucky!

 

In no way did I mean to disparage this lovely vase. It is impressive. However, on porcelain, you can kind of tell a cheaper gilding by it's "thin" appearance and very shiny colour. Better quality gilding shows "depth" and is shiny enough, but not mirror-like usually. Matte gilding can look "matte" or burnished, but I'm not sure in what sense Moser means. Here's an example I googled: