question about Hehe Erxian, chinese prosperity group

how do they know its 18th century? what do they look for:

https://www.chairish.com/product/25...celain-double-boy-figure-group-of-hehe-erxian

 

Just an FYI - This same item was sold in 2023 here ...
https://www.nyeandcompany.com/auction-lot/chinese-famille-rose-porcelain-of-hoho-twins_FEC4E3AB5B

Provenance: Galerie Drake, Paris, France ?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DSNMS9cDJvo/?img_index=1

Reference: An identical group is illustrated by Thomas V. Litzenburg, Jr in Chinese Export Porcelain in the Reeves Center Collection at Washington and Lee University (2003, p. 215, no. 219).
https://www.bada.org/object/18th-ce...porcelain-double-boy-figure-group-hehe-erxian

 

Sorry - duplicate info deleted.

 

looks like the same info , that we look for...

300...to 5000......... that's rich !!

 

EDIT: three of these appear to be the same wow...

 

not the same..... the one on instagram...... broken arm and different paint..

 

As I said: 3 of the 4 items linked are the same.

 

The one listed on Chairish and the British Antique Dealers' Association are the same piece, being offered by the same dealer - presumably the dealer who purchased it at auction in 2023.

 

THank you everybody Komokwa, 2many adn Roaring. Very interesting discussion Any more ideas on how to date it are welcome. thanks

 

If you are interested in this specific object, I would start by finding a copy of the reference book mentioned by Earle D. Vandekar of Knightsbridge, Inc, in his listing on the British Antique Dealers' Association website. In his offer on BADA, Vandekar notes that an identical piece is described on p.215. -

Chinese Export Porcelain in the Reeves Center Collection at Washington and Lee University, by Thomas V. Litzenburg, Jr. and Ann T. Bailey. Third Millenium Pub. Ltd., 2006. ISBN 9781903942192.

Although I do not have it as a reference on my shelves, this book probably has a good discussion on Chinese export porcelains in general, which may answer some of your questions about dating. But determining accurate dates for Chinese ceramics is notoriously difficult.