Help w/ID Antique 19th Century Woman's Portrait

Discussion in 'Art' started by Jim Goodykoontz, Apr 1, 2026 at 8:19 PM.

  1. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Well-Known Member

    hi everyone. i've had this painting for several years now, i've intended to upload some pictures here in the hope of identifying the emblem on the woman's right sleeve(see pics). i've thought it might be some abolitionist emblem or temperance emblem. i've always assumed she's from the 1850s to maybe the early 1870s, but that's just a guess. the painting is completely unsigned, so i don't know how likely it is to identify the artist, but if anyone has any guesses that would be great too. this was found in a thrift store. the frame isn't original. also, as you can see, the backside doesn't appear to be very old at all. i would describe the surface it's painted on as some sort of artist's board. this has always been one of the mysteries to me about this piece. i figured it was originally framed in such a way that the back never got exposed to air or whatever it is that causes aging. also, the painting itself measures 8"x10". any help will be appreciated...thanks woman_frame.jpg
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    To my eye, she's wearing pagoda sleeves with an embellished cuff.

    Debora

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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'd have figured 1850s from the hairstyle and jewelry designs. The knot earrings could be 1840s. The black dress and ribbons tell me she was in mourning, but it may have been the only formal dress she had that still fit.
     
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  4. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    It could very well have been relined at some point in its life. That would explain the back. Can you get a pic of the side ? Is it oil ?
     
  5. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Well-Known Member

    i've thought it might be a mourning dress too. it has occurred to me she might be a civil war widow, for instance.
     
  6. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Well-Known Member

    yes, but there's some sort of semi-distinguishable emblem there. i was hoping someone might have an idea what that might be. the artist saw fit to paint that too. it must have some significance.
     
  7. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Well-Known Member

    i think it is oil. it looks like it was glued or otherwise stuck to another surface and had to be pried off when it was removed for reframing.
     
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    This would have been painted before the US Civil War.
    It is very dark, but it looks like an embellishment, as Debora said, a rosette shape. Emblems weren't worn on sleeve cuffs.

    Rosettes on a 19th century dress, the lady on the left:

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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I would think the painting and frame are a marriage. The matting looks well out of period.

    Debora
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    She's lovely, isn't she? And quite young to be wearing mourning. Perhaps for a child. You might never get past "American school" although a long shot that the itinerant painter could be identified by the lace treatment or canvas size.

    Debora
     
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