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  1. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    DIARIO ?
    DIARIS ?
    DARIS ?
    PARIS ?


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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous bowls, hampton.

    I think these people are both taking photos with their smartphones, a bird doing a balancing act on top of an anthurium is a rare sight:

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  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Charis?
     
  4. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Bowls rather than domes! :)
     
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  5. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    I'm seeing lamp parts with a plugged hole
     
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  6. shallow_ocean_spectre

    shallow_ocean_spectre fine.books' bumping squirrel

    "Charon" styx in my head.
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  7. hamptonauction

    hamptonauction Well-Known Member

    I took photos of the above, there is text at 2 places on the vessel, this text is located near the punty

    vestex 1.jpg

    this text is located near the male figure. Sorry for the photo quality, they were difficult to photograph.
    vestex 2.jpg
     
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :hilarious:

    I was thinking of Charis, married to Hephaestos, and charm personified.:shy:
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That one looks like RAON.
    I'm still seeing CHARIS.:)
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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    With 7 strings, that's a kithara. :)
     
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    This isn't an improvement, but picks up some different bits:

    upload_2019-11-18_22-20-11.png
     
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  12. hamptonauction

    hamptonauction Well-Known Member

    That's what I also see.
     
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  13. hamptonauction

    hamptonauction Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Bronwen for your effort it really helpful, and all how helped. Andy
     
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  14. hamptonauction

    hamptonauction Well-Known Member

    Terry, That's what also thought, similar to center part of the lamps shown below. But they do not show any signs of being plugged.

    brass lamp.jpg
    brass lamp 2.jpg
     
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  15. shallow_ocean_spectre

    shallow_ocean_spectre fine.books' bumping squirrel

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  16. hamptonauction

    hamptonauction Well-Known Member

    Learning something new, thanks
     
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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Don't mind me, I'm just going to mumble to myself. I feel I have seen imagery very similar to that on Bowl 1 on a piece in the Greek & Roman wing of the Met, a monumentally sized vessel, sort of kantharos shaped as I recall. Of course, so far can't come up with the right terms to find it on line. But, thinking it could be Silenus/Silenos rather than Bacchus, did find this:

    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/colle...le&ao=on&ft=silenus&offset=0&rpp=20&pos=2

    upload_2019-11-18_22-37-57.png

    Berries seem to be associated with Silenus in a way they are not with Bacchus, so maybe that's what the garlands are meant to be. The second face is more like a mask, a common enough motif.

    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/colle...13&ao=on&ft=silenus&offset=0&rpp=20&pos=2

    upload_2019-11-18_22-44-46.png

    A search for bronze bowls in the Met's Greek & Roman collections produces very plain bowls, many quite small, mostly Etruscan & Cypriot:

    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/colle...material=Bronze&perPage=20&showOnly=withImage

    I'm scrambling trying to make sense of the imagery, the forms, the material & the oxidation. If the underlying question is whether these are Greco-Roman antiquities, my best answer is that they are not; they are meant to make you think they are.
     
  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Just going by your original link:

    It consisted of two to seven strings, richly decorated arms and a crescent-shaped sound box. It mostly probably originated from Mesopotamia. While it seems to have been common in Homer's day, accompanying the rhapsodes, it was supplanted in historical times by the seven-stringed kithara.

    :)
     
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