Featured Indonesian Tobacciana

Bought these 2 pots, that some describe as tobacco jars, others as tea jars, and I found one describing it as a cigar and a cigarette jar.
And there's also discord with aging and pricing...
So, what's your verdict?


And is this a maker's or another type of mark?

 

your makers mark looks like strikes on the primer of a shell casing........???

@Any Jewelry

 

I'm talking about that shape around the center mark.

 

Forgot to add the pic of the lid of the larger jar

 

I can't place the double headed peacock........... India is a good bet...imo

Bali comes to mind as well....

 

I'm pretty sure it's Indonesian. The double headed peacock might just be an aesthetic thingy for symmetry. But AJ will definitely have all the answers

 

looks like Wayang figure...

 

Exactly

 

Marote is right (of course), Indonesian.
They are from a 1930s tobacco set made in East Java, Indonesia.
These tobacco sets were mostly made for colonials, but based on the techniques and imagery of East Javanese sirih/betel sets, like mine:



As said, the wayang figure is Indonesian. It couldn't be more Javanese if it tried. The origin of wayang lies in East Java.

The double-headed peacock is also a very Javanese symbol. Originally a symbol of royalty, but later used as a general motif. It has a shorter, more compact tail than the usual Continental Asian peacocks, because it takes it shape (minus second head) from the Javanese peacock-pheasant, so it is actually a member of the pheasant family:


https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiegelpauw

No, it isn't. Just an indentation.

 

I, like most of our other members, am awed by your depth of experience an' understanding in so many cultures, AJ.
Lots to learn in every one of your comments...Thank you!

 

Of course
But do you mean that I was right regarding it being Indonesian?
Or that I was right saying that you would have all the answers?

But are they tobacco jars, or cigar/cigarette jars?

 

That.

Cigar and cigarette pots imo, but I am not a smoker. They were made as part of a presentation set for guests, like this one:


https://sennabenna.nl/product/indonesie-tabakset-rookstel-met-wajang-motief-set-van-5-onderdelen/