Featured Two Native American Rugs...

Really beautiful, I could use help with identifying, please. (wow, colors are all over the place!)

3' 3.5" x 6' 5" x 6" fringe


3' 2" x 5' 2"

 

LOVE the second one!!!!!

 

Is the second piece "Crystal Storm" pattern?

 

"Really beautiful,"

WE will be the judges of that, thank you!

Well since I don't know nuffin' bout rugs that's all I could come up with!

 

While I'm more used to seeing the Storm pattern have a central figure radiating lines out from the center......It is certainly a Crystal !!



The 1st one may be Mexican ???

 

ouch?
oh, then I saw your teeny tiny tag line!

 

First one is a Shirvan kilim.

 

Any idea what vintage ?
I love it. But not a great judge of rugs.

 

I can't match the pattern or the fringe to that type of rug !
I'm not saying you're wrong.......just that I can't confirm your assertion.

Could you please provide some confirmation.

 

& I've never know you to question someone politely asking for more information here....

 

I'm looking for one with similar fringe, too - but haven't seen one yet...

anunderkaufen - did you see one with this pattern and fringe in your travels?

 

I based my assertion on the pattern and the colors and hadn't even considered the fringe. It very well could be Armenian but I think Azerbaijani is more likely even if not Shirvan. It's just not a good match for Anatolian.

 

mmmm. again, can you give a vintage or example? ... I'm very much out of my depth here, anundverdaufen...
thanks for coming back...

 

Man , this has taken a lot of work & my eyes are shot..............
BUT....
While I can't yet match the design , I believe I have the manufacture....
Notice the fringe , thin and spaced , with two thicker bands at either end.
They exhibit the same twist ....

See how that compares with your rug, Scout....

 

I thought I was seeing the typical segmented construction of a kilim, now that I see it's a continuous weave you can scratch what I said above.

 

waaaal, now... you can scatch it all you like, I'm still in the weeds here.

I *think* the fringe is an attachment, not part of the weave itself (except the two thicker pieces on the ends) - I don't have it in front of me, but I remember thinking how easy it would be to add back (but not to match)...

Thank you both, but especially Komo for going the yard on this. I am still wondering who/what to attribute the design and colors to...? It's such a nice, strong design and rug. My favorite of the two.

Can I ask for ...more help?

 

I'm partial to the Navajo rug, & Turkish rugs confound me......I'm done here.