asian stoneware ? bottle

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by pmurphy, Apr 21, 2016.

  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    For some reason the decoration does not look Japanese to me. More like a Chinese piece made for export. Maybe produced in Swatow? Or maybe Vietnam?
    Chinese did imitate Japanese styles and the other way around but I doubt that Chinese borrowed overglaze green and red from Japanese. More likely Japanese did.
    I have not heard of "Japanese akae" before. Is this some type of early Ko Kutani?
     
  2. pmurphy

    pmurphy New Member

    FYI, I decided to get some help with my search and so I paid for an on-line appraisal....I figured they would have to know something about the item in order to put a value on it.
    This is what they came back with: "Mid 17th century, provincial Chinese club-shaped bottle vase." They also commented on the style: "a perfectly genuine 'country' version of metropolitan Transitional porcelains. That base is definitely not a Japanese one."
    So if what they are saying is true, I right back to not knowing the origin: Japan or China????

    However shortly after receiving this appraisal I was finally put in touch with a local antique dealer/appraiser who has expressed interest and asked for photos, and a possible meet with the item. We'll see what she has to say.....
     
  3. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    I have trouble understanding WHAT they were saying! You deserve some good answers after all your efforts, Senor Murphy!
     
  4. pmurphy

    pmurphy New Member

    This is what I found when researching:

    Aka-e. Polychrome overglaze, usually red in tone. This style of overglaze painting was introduced to Japan directly from China, and is used primarily with porcelains (Imari, Kakiemon, Nabeshima and Kutani). Aka-e (red painting) and was first produced around 1640.
     
  5. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    That's what I am saying, Japanese borrowed that akae style or whatever they call it.
    Not sure what is 'provincial' porcelain but I guess the one made by local potters for the people as opposed to the Imperial wares.
    Again, the shape is not traditional Chinese. But transitional period makes sense. During that transition Ming-Qing, they did a lot of export and some of the pieces were with unortodox shapes, adapted to the Western and Japanese demands. However , they still kept the traditional decoration.
    The Dutch market was huge but this bottle is very likely for the Japanese one.
    I hope someone translates that old script, there could be some useful info like cyclical date.
     
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