Silk paintings?

Discussion in 'Art' started by Deux Coeurs, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Anyone have an idea as to the age of these? Are they on silk? Japanese? The frames are obviously not the greatest. I tried to get photos the best I could without any glare. I haven't taken the backing off of the frames so I'm assuming the size of the fabric is limited to the 6 x 6.5 exposed piece. Any info would be helpful. Thank you! Screenshot_20200115-171949_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20200115-172107_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20200115-172214_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20200115-172400_Gallery.jpg 20200115_112851.jpg
     
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    More likely Chinese. And, you're right... what sad, sad frames and mats. Also, a very awkward use of linear perspective. Someone uncomfortable with Western painting techniques. Anything on the backs?

    Debora
     
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  3. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    No, nothing on the backs. Screenshot_20200115-184604_Gallery.jpg
     
  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Looks like what would have been helpful (a sticker) is no longer there.

    Debora
     
  5. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately :(
     
  6. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    It's a shame these got matted in so tight, I think you are missing quite a bit of the image. It is possible that there may be writing underneath the mat. I saw quite a few image samples when I searched on Chinese silk painting. If you are going to keep them, you might want to look at freshening up the frame with sanding and paint and getting new mats and UV glass.
     
  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    You know... That's a very good point. The matting does look rather -- how shall we say? -- arbitrary. Maybe it was meant to conceal writing.

    Debora
     
  8. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    I decided to go ahead and take one apart. This is what was in between two mats. Screenshot_20200116-131321_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20200116-131419_Gallery.jpg 20200116_131543.jpg
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Exhale. So much better now. At least the images can breath. And following the original artistic intent.

    Debora
     
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  10. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Absolutely! I just wish the glue wasn't on the front. Any suggestions?
     
  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Tricky I'd think given age.

    Debora
     
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  12. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    How old do you think they are? I haven't a clue.
     
  13. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Neither do I. But those frames looked said 1960-ish.

    Debora
     
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  14. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your help Debora :happy:.
     
  15. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Pleasure. Wish I could help more.

    Debora
     
  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I'm with Debora, Chinese. Traditional paintings on silk, probably scenes from well-known folk stories, poems or novels.
    I wouldn't call it uncomfortable, just a different tradition. The artist wasn't trying to paint in a Western style.
     
  17. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    Was the picture held in with nails or push points? From the look of the backing paper with burnt on image, it has been framed for quite a while. Is the black border glued down to something? It looks like there is cardboard there.
     
  18. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    It was held in with push points. It's very strange. The black border is glued on paper that the silk must also be glued onto?...and that was glued onto cardboard that had the mat on top of it. It looks like the whole silk piece bled through the paper. 20200116_171550.jpg Screenshot_20200116-172035_Gallery.jpg 20200116_171550.jpg Screenshot_20200116-172035_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20200116-172235_Gallery.jpg
     
  19. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    Those are modern points from a gun. Probably framed within the last 30 years. If you saved your mat you can take it to your framer or local hobby supplier and they will cut you a new one.
     
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  20. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Okay. Thank you very much!
     
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