Old glass negative - what kind of car is this?

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  1. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    I got a whole bunch of old glass negatives - ranging in size from 1 1/2" x 2" to 5" x 7" and dating from the 1890s to the early 1920s. About half of them were labeled and dated. I ended up buying a new scanner just so I could look at them properly because I just had to see them properly. There are some really cool ones - it will take me forever to scan and edit them but I will be sharing a lot with you all. Oh, and I know most of them are not worth much but that's not why I bought them. Fig and I are kindred spirits when it comes to old images.
    Anyways, this is one of the 5" x 7" ones. I believe it is in NY, possibly Brooklyn just because that is where the family lived at the time. Can you tell me what kind of car this is?
     
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  2. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

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  3. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Glass negatives seem to fetch a premium here, at least in my neck of the woods, pictures of cars even more.
    Can`t help with the ID but I can`t help thinking it has a distinct French look having the sloping grille.
    The flags either side are something a diplomats car would display.
     
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  4. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Have you tried an image search? That might work, though those searches seem oriented more to color than form.
     
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  5. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    No, I haven't. I've never done one but I'll try now.
     
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  6. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Nope - that wasn't helpful. :joyful::dead:
     
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  7. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

    looks like maybe a Renault; at least the hood/bonnet and other charateristics looks very much like those by Renault of the era
     
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  8. fidbald

    fidbald Well-Known Member

    the form of the hood was called alligator I believe and also used by other brands (
    Clément-Bayard)
    I thought I once saw a link somewhere to a site where they knew the the cars by the number plates
     
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  9. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Nice photo! -- I don't have knowledge enough of antique cars to be able to ID them.
     
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  10. anundverkaufen

    anundverkaufen Bird Feeder

    1917 Franklin Tourer Phaeton.
     
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  11. crowleys

    crowleys Well-Known Member

    After Franklin failed, the assets were used to build the Willys Jeep, one of which my grandpa bought new in 1949 and I still have.
     
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  12. birgittaw

    birgittaw Active Member

    What a great scan! I am curious what kind of scanner you got that produced this quality? Absolutely amazing... And on the other hand, it's so nice to see that this forum works, and works quickly and well and fast!
     
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  13. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Anund - thank you! I have never known you to be wrong - you are a master of arcane information.
     
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  14. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    birg - it is a Canon 9950f scanner - it's old - I got it on ebay for around $150. When it arrived I found that it is not compatible with the MacBook Pro my son just sent me, so I ended up buying special software for $79. I already had a decent scanner, mind you, but it couldn't scan negatives or film larger than 35 mm. So I ended up spending all that extra money just because I needed to see these negatives!
    It was worth it though - I've only scanned about 10 out of 100 and having a blast.
     
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  15. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    <form of the hood was called alligator I believe and also used by other brands<

    Hmmm.... interesting! I didn't know that "alligator hoods" were that early. Ford's 1st used the "alligator hood" in 1937. I haven't had any luck on IDing this car. I tried via the grille style then by the 5 panel rear window. Dodge used a similar slit panel rear window but not a grille like this one.
    http://www.mecumauction.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0114-173261

    I also found a Hayes touring car c1915 with a similar rear window but with 3 panels, again not the same grille.

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    9th down on left:
    http://www.earlyamericanautomobiles.com/1914.htm

    I tried also looking at NY 1917 license plates. Could only find a couple of them. They started with a letter, A, followed by 5 numbers.
    http://www.deerrunmercantile.com/1917newyorklicenseplates.aspx

    The flag may mean an embassy type vehicle, but could also mean a 4th of July celebration parade.

    --- Susan
     
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  16. birgittaw

    birgittaw Active Member

    Thanks book -- I can see this as a great sideline for you! I don't know anyone with a darkroom anymore, and surely there are folk with negs and glass slides who would love a quality scan and pay for it. Just an extraneous thought...
     
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  17. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

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  18. filazel

    filazel New Member

    That is very cool Bookahtoo. After scanning what program do you use to change it's positive image ? Love old dreamy black and whites.
     
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  19. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I use a Epson Perfection V600 Photo Scanner , slides, photos,, film, slides,and negatives, I`ve hardly used it but it does a perfect job..
     
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  20. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    I use vuescan to scan - the software I bought to make the scanner work with my computer. I tell the program it's a negative and it automatically changes it to a positive image. Then I just use Photoscape, a free photo editing program.
     
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