Featured Impressionist Mini or Small Painting - Seine River?

Discussion in 'Art' started by leeddie, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. leeddie

    leeddie Well-Known Member

    This little painting I believe features the Seine River. Or rather from research I have been doing for months now I believe some location along the Seine. Using the frame or rather the framer's label it would date to between 1894 - 1898. If the painting were framed when first created. The framer's label was only used between 1894 - 1898. I understand it could have been painted earlier and framed at a later date.
    Painting is oil on either thin canvas or paper attached to brown board. I think paper. Measures 2 17/16" x 4 11/16" with the backboard 3 1/16" x 4 17/16". In my research thus far I have found several paintings by Monet which feature a similar landscape of the Seine and river bank ( I understand it is not by Monet). Also in my research I found a painting by Renoir with the same type and color of backboard. The title of that painting is "The Blue River" which is even smaller than this painting at about 3 1/16" x 3 3/4". What I want to know most is if I am correct in thinking it is the Seine? Secondly if anyone might recognize the brush stroke structure given it is so pronounced. Any and all info or suggestions are most welcome. Pics were taken in July, 2016 out of doors. mini001.jpg mini003.jpg mini003b.jpg mini004.jpg mini006.jpg

    thanks,
    Eddie
     
  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Unless you can identify the artist, I doubt you will ever identify the location, and even then... artists move around.

    It looks like a quick field study. I know that some Canadian painters did similar as aide memoires for later studio compositions. It probably was (and is) a common practice wherever. At least the artist looks competent. He (she) was able to lay down the colors quickly and definitively without having the whole thing turn to mush.
     
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  3. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Lots of artists do field studies. I see nothing here that points to any particular landscape. It's nice for what it is, but I don't see how you could ever definitively ID it. Paintings and their original frames were often separated shortly afterwards, so I wouldn't count on the frame being any help at all.
     
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  4. gen belli

    gen belli Member

    Best of luck Eddie, it is an intriguing mystery for sure.
     
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  5. leeddie

    leeddie Well-Known Member

    Thank you. I understand and know of studies made for a larger more detailed painting. I just had one verified for me. I will keep searching. After all what is the net for. Appreciate your input.

    Eddie
     
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  6. leeddie

    leeddie Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Bev. I do understand the field study and how difficult it will be to find another of the same exact place. I also know many artists did several of the same place and now and again named said place. I hope to find that one in whatever million it might turn out to be or sadly not. Appreciate the input.

    thanks,
    Eddie
     
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  7. leeddie

    leeddie Well-Known Member

    Hello & welcome, gen belli. At first I thought it red bellinelli (basketball player). Thank you for the luck. I am going to need it.

    Eddie
     
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  8. gen belli

    gen belli Member

    Lol Eddie, I am as far away from a Basketball player if every there was one. Although it isn't the first time my name has been misread or pronounced :smuggrin:. After looking up Red though I wouldn't mind been related to him ;):D.

    Back to the painting though :artist: I will be interested to see how you go, as it is a nice little snap shot in time. Also painted in a style I have particularly loved since school.
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Sorry but, in my opinion, to attempt to identify this painting as a Seine scene seems a bit wishful thinking. I don't understand why one wouldn't first assume the artist and scene to be local to the framer in Poughkeepsie.

    Have you contacted the town historian to see if he could be of any help?

    http://townofpoughkeepsie.com/historian/index.html

    Debora
     
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  10. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Well, silly me. I didn't even think of the Hudson River Painters when I saw Poughkeepsie. That would be an awesome find if it was.
     
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  11. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

  12. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I concur fully.
     
  13. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Indeed it would!
     
  14. leeddie

    leeddie Well-Known Member

    I am not wishful thinking, I am simply stating what I thought it might be and asked if someone who might know could confirm. As for wishful thinking, I see nothing wrong in it. As for the frame being original, it might not be as you say. However, for the painting to fit and having such odd measurements unless all painters and frame makers paint and in 16s ... then again I am not an expert. As for Hudson river, I would be happy it it were... actually let me correct that .. I am happy with the painting ibe it a river, a stream or a dry arroyo after the rainy season.
    Thanks for the link.

    Eddie
     
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  15. leeddie

    leeddie Well-Known Member

    Thank you Bev. Will check the link out. I have a couple Hudson River pieces but not sure this is one. Would not be disappointed if it were. I enjoy it very much and had hoped to find the area. At first I thought it might be HR because of the collector being from there. Some paintings I purchased from the collection were from the north east US and others were from europe. I am still trying to figure out. As I stated I tend to over research and always trust my gut. It has served me well in buying and life in general. In the end I will continue to enjoy it no matter if I can figure out what water system.
     
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  16. leeddie

    leeddie Well-Known Member

    Thank you Bev. Will check the link out. I have a couple Hudson River pieces but not sure this is one. Would not be disappointed if it were. I enjoy it very much and had hoped to find the area. At first I thought it might be HR because of the collector being from there. Some paintings I purchased from the collection were from the north east US and others were from europe. I am still trying to figure out. As I stated I tend to over research and always trust my gut. It has served me well in buying and life in general. In the end I will continue to enjoy it no matter if I can figure out what water system.
    Than you, gen belli. I will continue to search as I do on all paintings I buy with little to no info. Sometimes I will search for a month or more and sometimes it can take me years literally. I like knowing what I buy.. to me that is the fun of collecting. Of course I could make it easy on myself and buy only thing which have no mystery left. What fun would that be? NONE for me. Thanks again.
     
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  17. gen belli

    gen belli Member

    I absolutely agree with you Eddie. I am a novice collector at best but it is the research and the fact finding I enjoy the most. :pompous:
     
  18. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I think a lot of us are here because we enjoy learning new things.
     
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