Featured Is this a Gerogian ring?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by spartcom5, May 23, 2020.

  1. spartcom5

    spartcom5 Well-Known Member

    I got my eye on this little ring and it is said to be Georgian. I dont own anything from the Georgian period and would like something! How does this look? I know nothing of the period!
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  2. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    Hmmmmm, could be Georgian.
    The tiny little clawed collet prongs and the rose cut diamonds all point to that conclusion
     
  3. spartcom5

    spartcom5 Well-Known Member

    So is this like late 1700s or early 1800s?
     
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  4. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    I would love to think so!
    Georgian period is about 1714-1837.
    Our other experts will chime in soon!
    Any marks?
     
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  5. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    The seller (I think it's the right one) confuses me. Seller in France, item in Hungary, looking at solds they seem to resell the same item several times. hmmm shrug emoji smal purple.jpg
     
  6. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

  7. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Thank you for checking into this, SIS, while I wouldn't be so concerned about the seller's location, I always think duplication of sales is never a good sign..
     
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a lovely little ring, spart.
    That crimping is a feature which is also seen on slightly later jewellery. In general Georgian stone settings, including this crimped type, are more refined and 'perfect'. There are always regional differences of course.
    I am not happy about the backs, it looks like they were filled in, not closed originally. That would mean not Georgian.

    This page has good information on how to recognize Georgian jewellery:

    https://gemgossip.com/how-to-identify-genuine-georgian-jewelry-part-1/

    As you can see, roughly made doesn't have to mean Georgian.
     
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  9. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    They are not great stones, but could they be foiled?
    The back is kind of crude looking. Perhaps at one point they were opened up and re-foiled? Just a guess.
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    This is from the link AJ provided:

    Red flag: I have seen hundreds of crudely made rose-cut diamond cluster rings and 5-stone rings for sale in the past few years. These rings usually have poor quality diamonds and crudely made, lumpy, crimped silver settings. Most of these have been made in the last 20 years or so. Think about how cheap it is to make a ring like this relative to how much they sell for because of their purported age, and you will understand why there are so many around.

    Also:

    Collets holding stones are made from very thin metal; heavy collets and castings are a clue that a piece might be a reproduction.
     
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  11. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    The crack in the setting doesn't look good.
     
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  12. Gus Tuason

    Gus Tuason Well-Known Member

    I would definitely be leery of this ring. The diamonds look mine cut or rough stones and the ring is yellow and white gold or platinum.Yes, metalsmiths knew how to make white gold but it was really not "in" until queen Victoria died. Platinum was out and regarded as undesirable until it became useful in the science arena of the latter half of the 19th century. I see quite a few rings on ebay that the sellers are touting as "antique"; "Victorian"; or "Georgian" with rough diamonds. Be aware.
     
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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    A Georgian ring would be set in gold or silver. That one isn't well made: Georgian rings are usually nicely done.
     
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  14. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    made in India maybe?
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Most probably yellow gold and silver. White stones were set in silver to support the colour of the stone, coloured ones in gold.
    Never white gold or platinum, not even on fakes. That is a much later thing.
     
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  16. spartcom5

    spartcom5 Well-Known Member

    The ring ended at $465.... wow regardless way above what I wanted to pay lol
     
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  17. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    Well, maybe it wasn't meant to be!
    Sometimes when bidding gets too high, I'm relieved that I don't have to make an expensive decision!
     
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  18. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Check back in a week or two, he may re-list it.
     
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