STIM ceramic fish dish Sweden

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  1. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I found this dish in today's new clearance.
    It was being used as an ashtray :eek:

    I found a similar one online it says dated 1959-60 and valued at 750Kr about £65 or $82.

    Is this the one

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  2. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

  3. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

  4. daveydempsey

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  5. lizjewel

    lizjewel Well-Known Member

    Lisa was busy but she was not the sign STIM, Sven Wejsfelt was. If Swedish is not your flavor, here's transl of brief bio from the above page:
    [Sw] Sven Ingemar Wejsfelt, ursprungligen Johansson, född 29 oktober 1930 i Lidköping, Västergötland, död 17 mars 2009 i Gustavsbergs församling, Värmdö, Uppland, var en svensk keramiker, frihandsdrejare, skulptör och glasyrmakare.
    Född: 1930, Lidköping
    Död: 17 mars 2009

    [Eng]: Sven Ingemar Wejsfelt, originally Johansson, born 29 october 1930 in Lidköping, Västergötland, dead 17 march 2009 in Gustavsberg commune, Värmdö, Uppland, was a Swedish ceramic artist, freehand turner, sculptor and glaze maker.
     
  6. i need help

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  7. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    I was wondering also if more than one designer worked on STIM, since the mothersweden site attributes the OP's dish to Larsen.
     
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  8. lizjewel

    lizjewel Well-Known Member

    IMHO the attribution to Lisa Larson (not Larsen) was made by picking up attributions of items f/s all over the Net, not because Lisa actually designed a particular fish platter (that is all over the place in dozens of search results). Lisa's signature is not even on it if you check.

    The word STIM is not an acronym and not a designer signature either. It's the name the Gustavsberg ceramic pottery company assigned to a series, a line if you will in sales parlance, of a particular theme pottery.

    Stim is a Swedish word. It means shoal as in a shoal of fish, i e fish swimming together in a group, a shoal. Gustavsberg named a large collection, a line, of fish-themed ceramics STIM, and numbered the pieces per design, check backs on the pictured pieces in the auction listings.

    https://www.bukowskis.com/sv/lots/5...-wejsfelt-gustavsberg-1900-talets-andra-halft
     
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  10. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Seems inconclusive to me on either side. Just because some STIM pieces are signed by Sven, it doesn’t mean he made them all. As you said the others attributed to Lisa are not signed.

    In general, I think they are different styles.
     
  11. lizjewel

    lizjewel Well-Known Member

    @i need help Absolutely. The line STIM included many different ceramic artists. That Lisa Larson's name figures so prominently in so many auctions we can probably ascribe to "name familiarity". If a wellknown name can be hooked onto an auction description it shows up in searches. The listers then hope that their offerings will appeal to fans of the wellknown creations.
     
  12. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    That is not what you indicated in your first post.
    Lisa was busy but she was not the sign STIM,Sven Wejsfeltwas.”

    Anyway, Davey has all the information, he can try to figure it out.
    It could just be listed as Gustavsberg STIM line and priced one line with the others, but that’s Up to Davey.
     
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  13. lizjewel

    lizjewel Well-Known Member

    Sorry, INH, when I wrote that she, Lisa, was not the sign STIM, I was right. I checked just about all the Lisa Larson designs on the Mother Sweden site. She had not signed any of the fish themed ceramics that I could see.

    I am quite familiar with Lisa Larson. In 1958 I bought a ceramic figurine by her as a birthday present for my little brother. I was leaving for England to study and wouldn't be home for his birthday, he would be 9 at the time.

    The figure was entitled Pojken och Katten, i e, The Boy With The Cat. It was 20 cm high, and the little boy was holding the cat in front of him, hanging down the length of himself. It was ever so adorable, and I had to scrape far down in my pocket money to pay for it in the department store. My brother is now deceased but his daughter still has the figure she told me.

    The figurine was later renamed Pelle med Katt. It is the same as the one shown here:
    https://auctionet.com/en/1015000-lisa-larson-figurin-pelle-med-katt-gustavsberg
     
  14. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Clearly you said ,Sven Wejsfeltwas.”
    No point in debating it, perhaps I misunderstood what that meant.
     
  15. lizjewel

    lizjewel Well-Known Member

  16. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    The fish figurines don't seem to have much in common with the dishes, as far as design.
     
  17. lizjewel

    lizjewel Well-Known Member

    @janetpjohn No, they are just lumped in the same mfr line, STIM, as in shoal of fish.
     
  18. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Hey - we had that exact same ashtray on our living room coffee table growing up, and it was still there when we cleaned out and sold my parent's house last fall. I guess one of my siblings got it.
     
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