Vase - sheep in pasture - identification help

Hello

Picked up this 11" tall vase recently, no artist signature and as the bottom is quite worn, no manufacturer mark on the bottom.

It's a very pretty piece. The pictures do not really do it justice.

Appears to be a moulded piece as there are two seams.

I know painting blanks, plates, etc. was a common past time back when and have several such pieces, but I was wondering if people did larger objects like this vase. I can see painting on a plate or dish, but painting a 360 degree scene.

Not sure if you can see it in the pictures, but you can see what appear to be sketch lines around the sheep in the vase and the painter coloured them in.

Sketched or not I know I wouldn't have been able to do one sheep, let alone the whole scene.

If anyone has or has seen similar unsigned / unmarked pieces, let me know your thoughts. - Thanks

 

R U certain the sheep R hand painted.....not transfer ware,,?

 

I'm not sure to be entirely honest, the background does not look like transfer ware, but perhaps this is the case, that they applied transfer images and filled in the background? I'd be interested to know if this was a process and when they may have used it. They'd have to do a heck of a lot of blending if this was the case, I would think it would be easier to paint the images, but that's easy for me to say as I have problems painting a wall

 

Wonder if someone was trying to copy a Royal Worcester style vase.
Might be a Japanese copy.

http://www.valeriemain.co.uk/stock.... Worcester Animal subjects, sheep, cattle etc.


Even though the bottom is not marked, we need to see how the bottom was finished. Might give a clue to origin.

See the unglazed ring, we look for things like this. Marks, numbers, scratched in underglaze, smooth edges, kiln marks. All kinds of little things tell a story.

 

the 2 sheep , one standing one sitting both facing left...look almost identical on both sides....I guess an artist could do that...

 

Reminds me a bit of Royal Bayreuth but the quality isn't quite there. It could be transfer with hand painted background or accents. As fully hand painted items became more expensive a cheaper combo system was developed. You can find ithe combo method used almost since the invention of transferware in the mid 18th century. I'd put your vase circa 1900. Like cluttered said - We really need a bottom shot.
Don

 

Oh..Don....you didn't , did ya !!

 

Oh dear! No, I'm sorry, komokwa, but I'm well past the age where I could get away with that thong! Now there was a time...
Don

 

The painting seems to wrap entirely around the vase. That would be difficult to accomplish without an obvious seam.

 

I've attached shots of the bottom and top looking in below. It does have a lot of the Royal Bayreuth characteristics after looking at some images, but I'd agree, maybe not the quality, having not seen one in person mind you. I'd agree with the age estimate, if it's a blank meant to copy the RB, they did a heck of a job. Thanks for your interest and feedback. Have another vase but this one is a metal one, Ikora, that I'm hoping someone can help date based on the marks.

 

Thank you for the extra pictures.

Starting to wonder if it might not be one of the American potters. The gold treatment is very subtle compared to European and Japanese works.

I think late 1800s before the McKinley act.

 

I don't know, cluttered, I can't think of an American company producing this type of ware. I'm leaning more towards an English producer trying to copy more expensive England and German vases.
Don

 

I thought that too. Doulton Lamberth (sp) but the shape of the vase doesn't seem right. And I would think there would be some sort of marking. The painting is similar to what I have seen on line, as is the light gold around at top and bottom.

I also thought Nippon, but they usually had a lot of gold embellishment.

I was thinking Ohio pottery. Sebring? I have to remember to look at the one I have at the store. The shape is similar, but mine is a painting of birds.

 

At least we're in agreement that it's not Nippon.

I'd love to see the Sebring vase! I considered producers like American Belleek, Pickard and maybe Chesapeake but again the quality just isn't quite there. The traditional decoration also bothers me. I like to think most USA decorators at that time were doing things like florals or even experimental decorations and glazes. We need to put a call out to verybrad and see what he thinks.
Don

 

And I completely forgot! ! !
Turned into a busy day. Which I needed.
The heat has kept people away. It was only 96 today. Pleasant.
Going back over 100 in the next few days.

 

Tomorrow's weather is hot and muggy, then more storms tomorrow night leading into a nice cool weekend. Can't wait - never was a fan of hot weather. Anything over 80 is pure torture. Stay cool!
Don