Featured staffordshire pottery pieces

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by charlie cheswick, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Hi mate

    Not an expert of course, but the foot rim is the bottom edge that makes contact with what it's placed on

    Good read init ? :)
     
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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Yup, it's the underside that makes contact.
     
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  3. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    OK so what then am I supposed to be seeing? Lets take a look at the Staffordshire ladies dancing in this thread. The bottom of the piece is white, I guess. So I would expect to see white color beginning to extend upward from the bottom edge of the base? Impinging into the yellow color then?
     
  4. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Hi

    Take the first piece, as would be easier to explain.

    What they are saying is the clear transparent glaze on the bottom concave section would sometimes spill on to the foot rim on authentic pieces

    But not fully cover
     
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  5. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The modern stuff is factory made and machines don't get sloppy. The old ones were done by humans, and humans aren't perfectionists when they're getting paid by the piece. ...I think...
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You are both right.
    I think...

    Thanks for the link, charlie.:)
     
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  8. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    well here's the underside of a little Staffordshire poodle I picked up a little while ago. I posted some pics last week. Does this show it? 52263925_IMG5547.jpg
     
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  9. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Your welcome Aj,

    Must be a Good article, after only one browse I'm know an expert apparently :hilarious:

    .......I think not
     
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  10. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Looking at you previous post, the whippet definitely shows that. I would think that the poodles are genuine too

    But only an expert could tell you what period as there are numerous factors to consider, not just the base glaze

    I do like that whippet..... looks like spongeware
     
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  11. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    some figurines stands on a round, rectangle ....base and some not. like @sunday silence's last pic.

    As evelyb30 mentiond as above, humans aren't perfectionist an they makes mistakes and thats what we see in old pieces.

    Do not rely too much on this sign because this can also created with machines.
    so try to examine a piece wiht all it's aspect
    $_86.JPG BORD.JPEG
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That is always the best with any (possible) antique.
     
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  13. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    OK so the footrim is on the underside. But that guy we linked to is saying the glaze is "coming up and onto" the footrim. Is it more like the glaze is dripping down and seeping below? Just trying to be sure.

    Charlie: you like the whippet more than the poodles? The poodles have birds they have caught displayed in front of them and the cobalt blue base. Im happy with both of course.
     
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  14. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    yes correct. also the bottom glaze (white, grey or bluish tint) can come onto the foot rim.like this bluish glaze
    BORD.JPEG
     
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  15. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    the thicker type of rim we see here, is that characteristic of mid 20th century manufactured Staffordshires?
     
  16. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    which one?
     
  17. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    there have been many different factories with many different molds. We cannot date a piece only on the basis of the thickness of the foot edge. as mentioned above, you have to look at it in its entirety to understand.
     
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  18. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

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    Hi ss

    Yeah I do as it goes, I like his cartoonesque form

    Although the poodles are nice and its always good to have a pair

    Personally I'm not a fan of the applied tiny pottery hair decorational parts

    I don't like it when it's used as foliage either, don't know why
     
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