Interesting little mystery pencil drawings from 1945

Discussion in 'Art' started by Hunter S., Sep 15, 2020.

  1. Hunter S.

    Hunter S. Active Member

    I was keeping my self busy during these crazy times...so of course I have been buying some of this and some of that...so I came across these two little ones :couchpotato:...
    They both have 1945 on them...and Hochosterwitz (written on the first one) is a castle in Austria and it is represented in the first one...this much I learned :pompous:
    They are both signed with a monogram A.N. or N.A. or am I reading it wrong?...
    Also there is this really interesting watermark on the second one...with three stars, pyramid and a ruler...and it says "DEYKAM ZEICHEN" once again I might be wrong...

    So I couldn't find anything more...and of course I would love to know everything :watching: so please help if you can :joyful: also I hope you enjoy them as I do :happy:

    I hope you are all doing at least "all right" :):):)

    First One:

    NAAN Number 1 - 1.jpg NAAN Number 1 - 2.jpg NAAN Number 1 - 3.jpg

    Second One:

    NAAN Number 2 - 1.jpg NAAN Number 2 - 2.jpg NAAN Number 2 - 3.jpg NAAN Number 2 - 4.jpg NAAN Number 2 - 5.jpg
     
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  2. Caribou's House

    Caribou's House Well-Known Member

    I absolutely love the second one! "Zeichen' is "drawing" in German.
    You sure it's not "Leykam" which is a name used for several publishing businesses in Austria.
     
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  3. Caribou's House

    Caribou's House Well-Known Member

    This is Leykam publishing in Austria. https://www.leykamverlag.at/ueber-uns/
    They were open in '45. :) Their email at bottom of webpage might be worth a shot
    asking them if they recognize it.
     
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  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The pyramid & compass are Masonic symbols. Not sure about the stars. I would read the monogram as AN.
     
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  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Keyham & Heyham are both going concerns as names. If you're in Britain.
     
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  6. Hunter S.

    Hunter S. Active Member

    I love them both :woot:
    Yes it seems to be L rather than the D I saw :pompous: Thanks for the idea...I will try to contact them for any possible additional info and I will come back with the results :)
     
  7. Hunter S.

    Hunter S. Active Member

    I saw masonic symbol as well but I didn't want to go right there :nailbiting: So I am not the only one :smug: Three stars can depict the following by my research:
    1. In typography, an asterism is a typographic symbol consisting of three asterisks placed in a triangle...
    The name originates from the astronomical term for a group of stars Nowadays the symbol is used rarely and is nearly obsolete. Its purpose is to "indicate minor breaks in text", to call attention to a passage, or to separate sub-chapters in a book.
    In more recent texts, a row of three or more asterisks, or three or more dots, are more common. Otherwise, an extra space between paragraphs is used. An asterism or its analogue may be used in conjunction with the extra space to mark a smaller subdivision than a sub-chapter.
    It can also be used to mean "untitled" or author or title withheld
    2. In observational astronomy, an asterism is a popularly-known pattern or group of stars that can be seen in the night sky. This colloquial definition makes it appear quite similar to a constellation, but they differ in that: a constellation is a formally-named area of the sky and all the celestial objects within it, representing an object, person, or animal, often mythological; while an asterism is a visually obvious collection of stars and the lines used to mentally connect them. As such, asterisms do not have officially determined boundaries and are therefore a more general concept which may refer to any identified pattern of stars. This distinction between terms remains somewhat inconsistent, varying among published sources. An asterism may be understood as an informal group of stars within the area of an official or defunct former constellation, or crossing the boundaries of two or more constellations.

    So the logo seems to be very very very masonic :hilarious:

    I find the artwork of the logo and the way it looks on the paper mesmerizing...:woot::woot::woot:
     
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  8. Hunter S.

    Hunter S. Active Member

    I am not in Britain and I didn't get that :) help me understand the reference to Keyham & Heyham :woot:
     
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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    When trying to decipher illegible signatures, it is always promising to find possibilities that are pronounceable in some language & actually in use. When I tried some variations for yours, the only ones that didn't leave Google without an answer were these 2 place names in England, Keyham & Heyham. I do not think they are the solution to your mystery. :)
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    We went down a large rabbit hole about printers' marks in another thread started by a painting with a seal on the back. Printers seem to have started something that spread to merchants more generally. It would not surprise me for Masonic symbols to be incorporated into the device for a printer. The fact that there is such a thing as an asterism in print terminology & practice makes it an appropriate & rather witty addition to the other 2 items for a printer.

    BTW, I believe 'asterism' is also the term for the illusion seen in some stones, such as star rubies & star sapphires.
     
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  11. Hunter S.

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    Thank you for you input :):):)

    Also three stars and a pyramid may be directly connected to the The Orion correlation theory (It posits that there is a correlation between the location of the three largest pyramids of the Giza pyramid complex and Orion's Belt of the constellation Orion, and that this correlation was intended as such by the original builders of the Giza pyramid complex. The stars of Orion were associated with Osiris, the god of rebirth and afterlife by the ancient Egyptians. Orion's Belt or the Belt of Orion, also known as the Three Kings or Three Sisters, is an asterism in the constellation Orion. It consists of the three bright stars Alnitak, Alnilam and Mintaka.):bookworm:
     
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  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Uh huh.
     
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