Featured Book Stand, ancient?

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by opoe, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    NONE of it is boring James, the information gleaned from these threads is Priceless .. we are very fortunate indeed to have such access. I LOVE it that one can learn so much even if the subject isn't within the realm of ones own collection, I certainly learn to know what to look for in other interesting items. :) .. Joy.
     
  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    We are all here to learn and share. I don't think anyone is bored to death (existential again:)), after all, they are not obliged to read it.
     
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  3. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    well, you know, it's just that woodworking in that manner is so alien & obscure these days, you say riven wood to the average person today & they say, WHAT?! what did you say, driven wood? & i say, no, RIVEN wood, you know, split, not sawn and they say, james, have you been drinking today? or something similar.
     
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  4. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    I would think that they would read and learn something about riven wood, I myself didn't know what it meant until I read and studied the wood grains presented here, and thank you James and others for your time and expertise, Joy.
     
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  5. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    See there! Told you!
     
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  6. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Just messing around but you get the idea, to the average person riven oak has about as much meaning as a moon rock does.
     
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  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I know something about moon rock.(LOL) Not so much about riven wood.
     
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  8. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  9. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    Riven means "split" not "sawn".. :) .. Joy.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I suppose 'rift' is derived from riven, and so is 'derived' probably.
     
  11. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    lol, oh boy, here we go! off we go into the wild blue yonder!
    Meanwhile, that delaware valley table is being sold tomorrow, may the force be with me!
     
  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Where else?:D
    In learning languages, even your own, it helps when there is a link with a familiar word.
    I don't think opoe minds a little meander. It looks like he needs the same meandering artistry I do, when navigating his way around the house.;)

    Good luck with the Delaware table.
     
  13. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Thanks! It's actually probably Philadelphia but, close enough! map of delaware river valley
    Delawarevalleymap.png
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Of course, Delaware valley, it was still early morning here when I read it.
     
  15. opoe

    opoe Well-Known Member

    So James what is your opinion on this piece of wood? An old chest that has been in my mother's family for many generations, was at my dad's house and saw this nice pattern in the wood: 2017-01-25 10.20.00.jpg 2017-01-25 10.20.10.jpg
     
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  16. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yep, far left panel appears to be riven oak.
     
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  17. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    These 4 panel blanket chest were popular in the late 17th century in europe & america. The timber in america at that time was virgin forests of old growth trees where in england by contrast the forests of readily available trees were of much lower quality generally speaking due to over cutting and harvesting over a much longer span of time.
     
  18. opoe

    opoe Well-Known Member

    Told my dad he should take good care of that chest..it might be "ancient".
    Some pictures of patterns found on the stand: (I do like to get to the bottom of things ;) )
    2017-01-26 13.50.15.jpg 2017-01-26 13.50.25.jpg 2017-01-26 13.51.24.jpg 2017-01-26 13.53.29.jpg 2017-01-26 13.51.24.jpg 2017-01-26 13.54.09.jpg
     
  19. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Some elements, particularly the smaller pieces will naturally be "quarter sawn" when milling oak timber with rotary power saws but riven is a whole other thing.
    In the early 20th century during the golden age of oak in america, they quarter sawed the entire log when making arts & craft, mission or craftsman style furniture. It was a main feature of that style furniture.
     
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  20. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Don't keep using the term "ancient" because most people would think you are talking about "ancient" Egypt. Ancient means thousands of years to most. You mean antique. If it's less than 100 years, it's vintage.
     
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