Featured A Soviet Edgar Degas...??? Unsigned but Very Interesting..Please Help..!!!

Discussion in 'Art' started by BTZ64, Nov 20, 2020.

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Soviet Painting ...?? If So...Name of Painter if possible..??

  1. Period of Execution of this Painting..?? Soviet Time..??

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  2. Is this a Copy of a E.Degas already existing Masterpiece...??

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  1. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Here is an other Soviet Oil Painting .. ?? A "La maniere de Edgar Degas"
    Study of Ballet Danseuse before the Theatrical Show...??
    Unfortunately unsigned....But I do believe some good and artistic professional knowledge in the matter....
    The Colors,Postures and atmosphere remind me a lot of E.Degas famous paintings...!!??
    This Painting has been done on classic Linen Canvas and measures 76 x 57 cm.
    You will notice tat some repairs have to be done...And that there is no sign what so ever...
    I am a little worried about some mistakes done on this Painting...One of the dancer has got a too skinny leg....Maybe the reason this Painting is not signed...???
    What do you think about it...Any idea of Whom could have painted it..??
    Thanks as usual to all of you..And Hoping Natasha will find this one more interesting...
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Would you be kind enough to post a photograph of the entire front and back including frame? It's not possible to evaluate your painting from fragments. And tell us how you know it's a "Soviet painting?"

    Debora
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Of course, it reminds you a lot of Degas. The subject, the palette, the strong diagonal. But your painting is mid-20th century, a half century after his death.

    Debora

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  4. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Thanks for your response...Well I tried my best to take photos of the Front...This Painting has been recently framed despite some restoration needed...I do know that this painting was not part of a Wooden Framed Canvas...It was plain and never screwed on a wooden chassis...There was nothing written stuck or signed on the back....But it was part of bulk of different items...Pottery,Paintings and diverse objects part of the Collection and same owner...I am still willing to purchase an other one ...Less old I suppose representing a posture of Christ....Hopefully will be able to purchase soon......Tell me exactly what type of photos you need from the front...Don't want yet to open the frame before any restoration...Jck
     
  5. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Oohh!!.. Big Time Debora...Agreed 1000%...But done with talent and knowledge...That is why I think it is a Soviet Russian..?? Not easy to give this accurate discipline and habits postures which are part of Ballet stretching and training before any Representation..In the Opera or the Bolshoi..?? Once restored'''It will be a must I always will keep...My 2 daughters used to dance ballet.....A Pity to don't know whom painted it...Got it for a very descent price...But restoration might cost me more ..Anyway I love it...jck
     
  6. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    Is there a possibility it can be from the same artist as the previous one you posted?
    A student work, in my opinion
     
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  7. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Oh No I don't think so....Two different styles...Two different modes of Painting....One Naive almost Fauve...The other one 100% Impressionist...Not comparable I think..!!
     
  8. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    This is not a very good painting - agree student work.
     
  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    It's very cleverly constructed. I don't see a student's hand.

    Debora
     
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  10. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    The Soviet academic school was generally strong - this indeed could be student work. What about the canvas? Does it have a similar appearance in both works?
     
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  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I'll repeat my question. Is there any reason to think this is a Soviet painting?

    Debora
     
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  12. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    Because that's a typical assignment for Soviet art academies
    http://www.socialart.su/khudozhniki/image/294
    This one, for example, is signed: A sketch for an academic setting. Ballet dancers. Medianikov S.I., 5th year of the Kyiv Art Academy
     
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  13. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Just so I fully understand... A typical assignment for Soviet art academies was a genre scene featuring ballet dancers? Do you know the reason why?

    Debora

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  14. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    Rather a live sketch featuring ballet dancers. Because it's a good exercise for painting figures in motion, I guess. I've seen quite a few of those
     
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  15. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    So a life drawing then. But... I'd think working with 8 figures seems like a fairly elaborate class exercise.

    Debora
     
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  16. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    I don't see an explanation why they don't have faces then
     
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  17. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Faces or no faces is an artist's creative choice not an indication of a student's work.

    Debora
     
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  18. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    Ok then we listen attentively to your expert opinion concerning the country and the period
     
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  19. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Reported.

    Debor
     
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  20. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Totally agreed...Thanks
     
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