Royal Worcester crescent salad plates help please ..

I am looking for info if anyone can help, this is a crescent salad plate. It has two crowns on the back .. the first is marked with Royal Worcester (no England anywhere) The second crown has the words Mount St / Phillips's LTD / London. W .. Under the two rows of crowns is a blue box saying RdNo 178723 and in a banner below is Royal Worcester /vitreous
These are very pretty plates and I would like to find out when they were made and why there is no England stamped on them. I know they will not be valuable, but they are interesting and I want to find out more about them.
Should add there is a triangle and two tiny triangles pressed into the plate .. three tiny blue dots and a tiny orange signature

Kind regards
Senti'

 

Here is a link to dating the Rd or registration date, scroll down the page. This would be when the pattern was registered so was made some time after that date. Yours would be 1891.

http://www.thepotteries.org/mark/reg.htm

And here is a link to Royal Worcester marks and how to date them.

https://www.museumofroyalworcester.org/learning/research/royal-worcester-factory-marks/

I would guess the other is a retailer but someone else may know that.

 

They're an auction house and a very well known one. http://www.mountstreetmayfair.co.uk/item/phillips/

You might email them: I suspect they were used for in house catering and were a special order, hence the lack of country on them.

 

Owned, I dont think it is the auction house, I think that Phillips were retailers with various London addresses and were at Mount st between 1897-1906 according to Godden.

 

O gosh they are old then .. very sweet and I like the shape.

 

Its Phillips's on the plate not Phillips, would that make a difference ?

 

Might do, the mark in Godden is different but has a crown above.

 

Aren't they really bone dishes?

 

I have no idea .. I have been looking on line and the came up as crescent salad plates .. will have a look around at bone plates now ..thanks

 

Theoretically they are called bone dishes. I can't imagine a lettuce salad staying put long enough to apply a fork. One the other hand, one cannot be dining on roast chicken (or Heaven forfend, a turkey!) and using them for the bones. A wee squab, perhaps, or a breakfast trout...

 

I am a vegetarian .. think I will bin them LOL

 

You can use them for whatever you like, I just meant searching is easier when you use the right terms. Fruit would be nice.

 

I think I will always know what they are for now .. may put them on the wall !!
Its amazing that I have been looking on line for weeks and after just a few hours you guys put me on the right track and answer my questions .. your all awesome

 

Hi,
I was always taught if the crescent dish is 6" or smaller it is a bone dish, larger than 6" it is a salad plate.
greg

 

Cheers, will measure in the morning, fingers crossed for the right sizes

 

Can you show a photo of it next to a regular dinner plate?

 

Phillips's Ltd. Glass and china dealer.

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol40/pt2/pp321-326

Debora

 

What way do you measure .. its over 6' on the longest part but under on the shortest .. will get photos for you later .. this is really interesting .. it would be so typical to have bone bowls given to me by someone who knew I was a life long vegetarian.

 

So a bit like getting them from Woolworths ... the quality is not great, this is why I know they are worth nothing money wise. But its so interesting finding out about bone bowls !!! its a different world to one I know .. LOL

 

Ah, retailers indeed. And I agre they're bone dishes.