pair of Asian vase - old or new ?

Hi everyone
This vase has been with our family for a while. Was locked up for a longer while.
It has 4 sides and each side has a different picture painting. It’s approximately 14 Inches tall.
No markings at the bottom. They are a beautiful pair. Any leads would be helpful.
Is this Chinese or Japanese.

 

I'm no expert so take what I say with a grain of salt and wait for others to verify but from what I can tell...

It's Satsuma pottery from Japan,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satsuma_ware

Without any marks will be a bit difficult to narrow down maker / age, but from the glaze and the decoration I'd guess second half of 20th century, or at least post WWII. Again, wait for others to chime in/ correct me

EDIT - after staring at them a bit more - perhaps they are a little older - not sure, but again, hard to authenticate/date without a mark.

 

Thanks Aaron went through the Wikipedia link. That did say older pieces were not marked. However that would mean pre WWII I would assume or even pre 1900

 

I think these are older.
Mid to late 1800s.
Only my opinion, and I could be wrong.

If you are considering selling, you might want to get someone to look at this and the vase in the other thread.
I see some wear to the gold which will make a difference in value.

 

Thanks CC49. When you say look at them you mean valuer?
Have you seen similar pieces before ?

 

well that......but someone to tell you exactly what they are.....

 

I think late 19th century, because they are made for the Western taste. Attractive vases, with some loss of gilding, as cluttered noted, and some chips.
@Mat may know more.

 

If made for the Western market, then has to be before 1891 when the McKinley Act went in effect.

Or if you are in an area that has any antique stores with knowledgeable dealers, take them around and ask for help to ID. Don't sell until you know what you have.
The question to ask is "If this were in your shop what would you price it at?" Don't expect to get that price from a dealer, more like 1/3 - 1/4 of their price.

Some pieces of good quality can go for decent prices.
Yours in both threads have good detail, more than what you normally see. As noted damage does hurt the value.

 

Thanks cc49 I stay in India.
Not aware of knowledgeable dealers around here.

But this is so helpful.

 

I was going to say, the vases may never have been imported into the US.
There is more to the Western market than just the US, and the McKinley Act was just in the US. We have a lot of Satsuma here in the Netherlands as well, which never saw the US.
I guess the Japanese made batches just stamped for the US.

Your vases may have come to India during British rule. The British hated the McKinley Act, because the high trade tariffs affected their trade and the trade between the US and their colonies. They may not have been happy with Japanese pieces stamped for the US market.
Of course the act affected the US badly as well, something which could be repeated if someone in the White House has his way.

But wait a while, Tinytim, others may be along who are more knowledgeable on Satsuma.

 

Was not aware of this.
Then the time period might well be later than 1891. Sorry if I gave bad info.
Only know my corner of the world and I sometimes forget people are posting from all over the world. Please forgive me.

 

Easy mistake to make.
I live in the border region of a tiny country. One sneeze and we suddenly find ourselves abroad. That makes it more necessary to consider other laws and customs. It is different for you.

 

I have come across several pieces of Satsuma lately. I'm not an expert but I believe that old pieces are rare. The pieces I've seen are heavy and some are more attractive than others. I read somewhere that they became popular with tourists in the mid 20th century and many were made at that time. I would look carefully at the craftsmanship.

 

Thanks serendipity
How would I know if this satsuma is old. This unfortunately bares no stamp for me to try and date it.

I can upload better pictures of the craftsman ship if it would help. I would not be able to know what is better I have not come across a great deal of satsuma

 

I would google "antique satsuma pottery". The old stuff can sell for hundreds of dollars. It doesn't look as heavy as this. It looks a little less mass produced. The vase in another thread looks pretty common. The pair of vases here are a little more unusual.

 

Yes, this is a pair of Satsuma vases, 1900 or a bit later in my opinion. These were often not marked at all. The quality is good, not top but better than many I have seen...