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Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Ibrahim Sadoq, Mar 4, 2021.

  1. Ibrahim Sadoq

    Ibrahim Sadoq Member

    I found this plate in an antique shop, I never saw something similar and the shop owner was hiding it in a special area so I assume he really know it worth something, he revealed it to me while I was about to leave, along some other antique dishes. is this Chinese by any sort and what it's the material if you have any idea? IMG_20210302_095651.jpg IMG_20210302_095728.jpg IMG_20210302_095657.jpg IMG_20210302_095720.jpg
     
  2. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Aztec calendar crushed stone in resin.
     
  3. Ibrahim Sadoq

    Ibrahim Sadoq Member

    thank you so much your response is very accurate, do you have any idea about the age, origin and the importance of it as value.
     
  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it has none........
    not important
    made in Mexico....likely
    still made today.......
     
  6. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Probably made sometime in the last 50 years,made in Mexico,Google it and will see prices depending on size.
     
  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    maybe the last 20..........
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_sun_stone

    When I was in Mexico in the 70s, I never saw these crushed stone souvenirs with 'gold' embellishment, only the regular green colour. The rough texture on the back is also something I have never seen, so my guess is it is pretty new.
    Please don't ever go there again, the seller is a crook.:(
     
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  9. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    This type of thing has happened to me too. Fakes are made to simulate the real thing. Famous institutions have been fooled by forgeries. Modern resin has been used since the early 1900's and used to mimic more valuable materials such as ivory, cinnabar, etc. Learn to spot it by handling things and looking very closely for burst bubbles, a formulaic kind of form, lack of carving marks etc. You'll soon learn to spot it. Resin itself has been around for centuries, but the modern form is sometimes used to create fakes.
     
  10. Grateful

    Grateful Well-Known Member

    In several years now of sorting through family boxes of stuff, I have come to know that many things we (as humans) believe are valuable (for many different reasons) may actually have little, and things we dismiss as monetarily worthless may indeed have value. In my world, if you like it for whatever reason, enjoy it. You'll overspend at times, and get an unexpected deals at others. Nothing substitutes for the "school of hard knocks." Happy treasure-hunting :joyful:
     
  11. Ladybub

    Ladybub Member

    I agree, Grateful. Years ago when I started collecting some pieces my husband gave me some good advice when I felt compelled to buy quantities or pieces to hold onto for resale. He said buy what you like and don't worry about the future value. Just build your collection.
     
  12. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Yours is a typical souvenir. Here's the original which is in the National Museum of Anthropology and History in México, D.F. None of my business but... I'd be cautious about dealing with that antique dealer in the future.

    Debora

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  13. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    Looks very much like those they sell in the tourist markets
     
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  14. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    A ubiquitous Mexican souvenir. Has been for decades. So long, in fact, that likely made in China by now.

    Debora
     
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  15. Rosiposey

    Rosiposey Active Member

    Appreciate your gentle response:)
     
  16. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    Ain't that the truth, made me smile ty!
     
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  17. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    Somewhat off-topic: there are certainly shop-owners who are not above deception; but two of my fond memories are of exceptionally honest ones.
    Once, when I was a novice collector of Native items, my wife and I were admiring a basket in an antique shop case. The owner came up and said "Were you thinking that might be native? It is a Chinese import." I learned a lot from handling that basket.
    And around the same time, viewing an ivory item signed "Nuguruk," the owner told me the entire history of such items, made since the 1920s by a Seattle jewelry company which hired non-natives to scrimshaw cutlery and décor items from real ivory, using designs supplied by the company and signing them all Nuguruk or Nunuk. That is information which is very hard to track down on the internet. Both shops could easily have sold these items to unsuspecting shoppers; but chose instead to spread knowledge.
     
  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    to spread knowledge............just like you do !!, my friend !!!:happy::happy::happy::happy:
     
  19. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I've some favourite car boot sale people. They've carefully pointed out damage or cracks to me in case I missed them. In return, I'll let them pick my brain.
     
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  20. Ex Libris

    Ex Libris Well-Known Member

    I saw this photo after i read this post

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