Rosch Watercolour help

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  1. NTC Collector

    NTC Collector Well-Known Member

    View attachment 351567 9CB9C4D4-7487-4C37-951D-92D8018C66FD.jpeg 35647158-37BF-4834-AE0C-C64CD830B066.jpeg F4C393B2-55C0-4BDA-9F56-422A42A55F85.jpeg 8E7ACE5A-90A4-46F0-83A3-3790CA50AF05.jpeg AE81E21D-F60B-4545-AD8C-9A3FF7B54D0C.jpeg DDDCC03B-7AF0-479C-8E6F-09529B7841CE.jpeg Hi all, I’ve recently bought this lovely watercolour and I’d appreciate any help on the artist and location area. It’s signed Rosch and looks like initial “A” but unclear, with year 17 (assume 1917). In my little research I’ve located Ludwig Rosch working at the same time with some field scenes that look similar - perhaps it could be his except that odd initial! A mistake?! I’ve not taken the backing off yet. Windmill could be Poland? Germany? I can see similar windmills from there online. I also found a Rosch painting with very similar frame but perhaps just of the period. His signatures vary in style with some having similar letter style (this one very art nouveau script). The painting itself measures 42cm x 27cm and then the frame. Frame looks to be gilded plaster on timber backing and the plaster is cracked with bits missing. Another little clue, the backing board looks like it’s got the Polish word for batteries on it (Akumulatora - it’s shown backward so probably on the reverse side). Framed in Poland maybe…long shot?!). Would love your thoughts and ideas or leads.
     
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  2. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

    When I see a windmill, I think of @Any Jewelry.........:):):)
     
  3. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I've reversed pic#3

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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Square windmills without a separate base construction are typically Polish. The Netherlands has square windmills on a pointy base.

    I agree, the year is 1917, with that very nice lettering.
    Rösch is a German-sounding surname, there used to be many ethnic Germans in Poland.

    Dutch book on Polish windmills (not mine):
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    Dutch 'standerdmolen', literally 'mill on a stand'.:nailbiting::
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  5. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

    Wow!

    That last picture is quite the image!
     
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  6. NTC Collector

    NTC Collector Well-Known Member

    Many thanks @Any Jewelry, very interesting and good to know. It could be another Rosch, although Ludwig did seem to paint all across Europe so still possible it’s him…not sure what that initial means though.
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Scary, isn't it. We have quite a few of those in the region where I live.
     
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  9. NTC Collector

    NTC Collector Well-Known Member

  10. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, both frames are typical of the era.
    Good point.
     
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  12. NTC Collector

    NTC Collector Well-Known Member

    Really appreciate the responses, good to know it’s most likely set in Poland and 1917 seems right. The mystery of who the artist is remains elusive but you never know what leads people might suggest. Either way I’m happy with the purchase and enjoy the research part just as much :)
     
  13. Angelo1

    Angelo1 Member

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  14. Debora

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  15. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    I found a different listing that shows Diedrich Rusch's signature. To me there are several differences in the printing, especially including the fact that the original post above includes an umlaut over the second letter, and Diedrich Rusch did not. I do not think that the two signatures were written by the same person. I do think the initial letter in the original post above could be a D. The last name in the original post above could be Rösch or (less likely, imo) Rüsch.


    https://www.invaluable.com/auction-...959-oppeln-wingst-1925-oil-c-509-c-dc24e9cb43

    Diedrich Rusch signature.jpg
     
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  16. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I agree. The composition of the OP's work is charming but the artist really struggled to capture the dimensionality of the windmill, especially the entrance side. The other like-name artist's are more skilled in perspective. And they both appeared to have worked in oil, not watercolor.

    Debora
     
  17. Angelo1

    Angelo1 Member

    The signatures are handmade and not made with stamp.
    There is an evolution in signature during time (see for example a page of several Picasso signatures).
    For the style , I think this work could be compliant with Rusch paintings.
    Maybe I could be wrong , I'm trying only to help the author of the thread.
    I add another pic found on internet.
    The main difference is the ".." on the "u".

    rusch1.jpg
     
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  18. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Good find.. Also dated.. I would agree. Possible
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, the signature looks similar, and I did consider a D, except I couldn't find any D Rüsch.
    Is it possible that Dietrich Rusch's surname is in fact Rüsch, but for some reason he thought it better to leave out the umlaut? Due to anti-German sentiments maybe?

    There is a Dutch writer called Harry Mulisch, who changed his name to Mulish to make it sound less German. (Austro-Hungarian father who collaborated with the Germans, German-Jewish mother.)
     
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  20. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Are you referring to the fact that I called it printing? I meant it was written by hand with individual letters, not written in script handwriting. I did not mean printed with a stamp. In the USA we call it printing, such as a child would do.

    Maybe I misunderstood, but I don't see any comments saying that the signature was made with a stamp... so I am just trying to clarify my statement.
     
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