Featured 2 little interesting oils

Discussion in 'Art' started by charlie cheswick, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Hi all

    Found these 2 little oils in a charity shop yesterday

    They have been reframed in a modern frame with glass front

    Decided to take them out to look for a signature, but nothing

    Appears who ever framed them cropped a large portion off, as without frames they are square, I think they were trying to hide a bit of damage to the edges, but think they look better in their original aspect, there's a colour variation now though

    I'm thinking a good bit of age to them,

    Think they deserve better frames

    Any thoughts appreciated

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Are you referring to that ship that has almost wholly (except the standard) disappeared to the right on the one? From what I can see, the cropping was sympathetic. 1920s newspaper. Why do you think framer preserved it?

    Debora
     
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  3. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Wonder if this was once one larger painting that has been cut down, with portions lost.
     
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  4. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Nice. So you say there’s a colour variation? I was thinking they might be originally part of the same bigger painting.. That newspaper,clothes looks 1930. Any date?
     
  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Could well be a larger image. Would piece together. May well be a copy of somethin' since unlikely observed from nature.

    Debora
     
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  6. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    No I think Debora is correct more 1920’s.
     
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  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I think we're both right. A cusper. Somewhere 'tween the late 1920s (when the bob came into fashion) into the early 1930s.

    Debora
     
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  8. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    2 better images of full size

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  9. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Yeah I mean colour variations on each from where the frame has been

    All good observations, the only way I can see it being part of a larger painting is if there was a missing middle part, but the sea is a different colour on both

    I think Deborah might be right that they may be single observations from another painting

    Both measure exactly the same, and the edges do not look cut

    No dates on the newspaper, might take them off to see if any info underneath
     
  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    An ad from the newspaper. c. 1932 according to the internet.

    Debora

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  11. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

  12. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    How about that story of Rosie the dog.
     
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  13. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I see the face in the boulder in the painting on the left, and I just plain love the little one on the right......to me they both look like the same artist.....I'm thinking the one on the right had more exposure to light and fading.......
     
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  14. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Charlie, is there some sort of tape around the edges that has discolored?

    Or perhaps, is it the adhesive from tape?

    I see a definite yellowing that has occurred, wonder if tape was used to prevent damages, if when it was a larger painting cut down with a saw..? I'm pretty sure this was once a larger piece.
     
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  15. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Thanks aqui, I think the ship one could still work as a single painting so that's not too bad
     
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  16. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Hi anti, yeah it had a strong glued tape around it so it also might be some kind of adhesive that might clean off

    I'm thinking now that it is a cut up so might be better put back in the frames
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Love them, charlie!:happy:
    I agree, it was once one painting, and probably another part on the right. Is there some way you can put these two together in one frame? The wider view would make more sense.
    There is the yellowing of course, you would have to find a way to get rid of that.
     
  18. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Thanks Aj, yeah I always love a stormy sea scene

    It's a tricky one to know what to do with them as the rock one is a bit of a non entity on its own

    The ship piece will work as is but would be a shame to discard the other one
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I love ship paintings, seascapes in general.
     
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  20. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Stormy sea paintings always make me feel calm for some reason, it's like thank God I'm not out in that !:)
     
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