Featured Firescreen needlepoint

Hello everybody. Was wondering if anyone could give me whatever information on This needlepoint firescreen. Estimated value, age I would guess is late 1800’s European origin. Thank you guys! Considering buying it but have little knowledge on firescreens. Collector paid $1200 for it and is offering to give it to me at $400 as he had a horrible hoarding situation and just wants everything gone completely.

 

Not sure I could live with subject matter. Appears to be Robinson Crusoe and Friday.

Debora

 

Very different! I'd say 1860s-70s. Worth it for, maybe, $300. May be you can talk him down.

 

Do you all think that frame is old?
I get a newer vibe from it.
@verybrad

Any chance you can get a close up of the stitching?

 

Good observations, I don’t have any other pics and do not own it. Had no clue what the needlepoint depicted, but there is no doubt in my mind this is not a recent reproduction. If that were the case I would think early 1900’s. The tapestry could be a repro and added later to the fire screen, to my best knowledge but I would not think the firescreen itself is younger than 1920.

 

Have no idea if this would have ever been worth $1200.

In today's market $400 seems awfully high to me. But I'm not a needlework person.

Do you like it $400 worth if it turns out not to be as old as he claims?
I'm a tightwad. I would not spend a lot of money on something I wasn't sure about, unless I was madly in love with it and didn't care what it cost.

 

I came here to inquire price, accuracy of age, authenticity etc to help make a decision on purchase. I have purchased a large amount of his items that are no doubt exactly what he’s told me they are. I am also in a market in Dallas- Fort Worth that antiques are priced a lot higher. The market here is way different due to population/ income I am guessing.

 

Are you interested in buying for resale or is this something you plan on enjoying in your own home?

Debora

 

You are probably correct.

 

Have no problem assigning a late 19th century date to this. I can not speak to the tapestry being period to the frame. Based on the quality, I could easily see this going for $400.00 in the right auction or at retail. I could also see getting similar for less given the right circumstances.

Here are completed auctions for Victorian fire screens. Many nice ones sold for considerably less than $400.00. A few did considerably better.

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/search/?keyword=victorian fire screen&sort=-saleStart&status=archive

 

I came here to inquire price, accuracy of age, authenticity etc to help make a decision on purchase.
& I came here to join in a community of like minded lovers of antiques, offering their time and expertise & opinions on a wide variety of items in order to help each other figure out exactly what it is they have.
So , what's your point?

I have purchased a large amount of his items that are no doubt exactly what he’s told me they are.
Well now there is doubt, just by virtue of you being here to ask ' whatever information' you can glean from us to validate what you've been told by a seller who wants to rid himself of his stock......at a substantial loss.

in Dallas- Fort Worth that antiques are priced a lot higher. ...

Members here come from all over North America & the world. There are many who live up the side of a mountain , in small communities , out in the back woods, & in the heart of big cities.
Thus, we are reluctant to place firm values on items because of the very nature of their volatile market fluctuations.
That said....at $1200...even if your dealer is honest.......he may have wildly overpaid ..... for a number of reasons....or cuz he screwed the pooch !

 

I have no prior experience or knowledge with firescreens which is why I asked. Alls he could tell me is that it was a 19th century needlepoint bought years ago for $1200. Would not be surprised if he overpaid as we are in a market where most of the stuff you guys post can get next to nothing is still selling for top dollar.

 

most of the stuff you guys post can get next to nothing is still selling for top dollar.

Right there , you said a mouthful !!!

Talk about business opportunity.... if you can source these items in places where their value is depressed....& bring them into your market....you can stop buying from your dealer.....& become a dealer yourself !!!

Oh...& Go Cowboys !!!!