Dovetail identification

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by Phil Harrison, Jul 26, 2019.

  1. Phil Harrison

    Phil Harrison Active Member

    2197376F-290D-4FE7-980B-FCAB866DE79C.jpeg 79899C38-E3EB-4B5A-9AA2-D3067B082CC8.jpeg hello again everyone.
    And thank you to everyone that has helped me with identifying and classifying the bits and pieces I’ve bought thus far.
    I’m in the market, possibly, for a small, Georgian side table but am keen not to purchase a late 19th or 20th century reproduction. I was wondering, therefore, if anyone could confirm that these are (or aren’t) hand-cut dovetails? They’re obviously quite regular but not perfectly so. They do seem quite large, though, to be early? An Edwardian pastiche, maybe?
    Many thanks in advance.
     
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  2. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I also am interested in the answer. I have an old dresser with similar handles.

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  3. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    These are machine cut. Drawer pulls indicate circa 1920 with quite a bit of leeway either way.
     
  4. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    That's exactly the age I thought. Thanks so much @verybrad
     
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  5. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Phil Sorry about usurping your post. Kiko
     
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  6. Michael77

    Michael77 Well-Known Member

    I would agree with Brad, both examples machine cut production half blind dovetails. Hand cut dovetails would be much cleaner to show off craftsman's skills.
     
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  7. Phil Harrison

    Phil Harrison Active Member

    No problem whatsoever, thanks everyone that’s contributed.
     
  8. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    I'd say it's important to point out that just because drawer dovetails are hand made, does mean the entire piece was hand made or a "period piece". For example, in the USA, most furniture by 1850 was machine made except for the drawer boxes which continued to be hand made until 1900. The reason? It took 50 years for engineers to figure out how to build machines to cut dovetails.
     
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  9. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    The bottom line in all this is, there is no "magic bullet" to authenticate "in period" old furniture, i wish there was but there just isn't. just sayin....
     
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  10. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    I have also learned in this forum that hand cut dovetails persisted in England among some makers much longer than they ever were done here.
     
  11. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yes, Not here but on other furniture sites I have heard that in england, they continued to make furniture largely by hand until the 1930s. If true, nearly a century after machines began crafting furniture in america.
     
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  12. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It varied. The really cheap stuff was done with machine assistance, but anything above that had strong elements of hand made. And still does. It was and is a strong selling point. Even with Utility furniture, which is why it's lasted.
     
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  13. Phil Harrison

    Phil Harrison Active Member

    And this, I’m assuming, is hand cut...?

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    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

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