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Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by cxgirl, Sep 4, 2019.

  1. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

  2. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I may have the definition wrong, then.

    I'm thinking of cut lead crystal.
     
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  3. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I'm only picking on you because I see this in descriptions of cameos of the goddess Ceres too: sheaf. It gets funnier with cameos when someone writes She has sheaths of wheat in her hair, when what they really mean is stalks.
     
  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  6. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    There isn't much color or flash,the stones have a window/fish eye from being cut with the wrong angles for the material.
     
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  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  8. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I don't know more about it, but it's lovely!
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is really stunning, cx.:) Love the decoration on the settings as well, a nice, subtle detail.

    I agree, cut paste, which is the English term. I believe the North American term for paste is rhinestone, because it looks like the very clear rock crystal found in the river Rhine.
    We call it strass, after the inventor.

    The ebay set is gorgeous but not likely to be Georgian. Georgian paste is set with a closed back, just like Georgian gemstones. It is antique though.
     
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  10. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

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  11. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Oh, we disagree about the flash and color, but that's okay. :joyful:
     
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  12. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    We used to use the word "paste," but I think it went out of fashion. Or just came to mean "fake." (Too many movies where the jewel thieves were thwarted by "paste" :bucktooth:)

    I grew up thinking "rhinestones" must have a foiled back and... I often forget that I know better.:rolleyes::hilarious:
     
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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Rhinestones were orginally cut rock crystal. Now generally glass - but they can be made of paste, just to confuzzle. ;) The reason I've always heard for the term here, is that they originated in Bohemia - River Rhine and all that.

    Paste was cut glass with a lot of lead in it. The term tends to be used now for any bling with faux stones but I think of it as older.
     
  14. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Yes, cut lead crystal is what I thought...

    hmmm. Part of the confusion may also be the tendency to use "crystal" and "glass" interchangeably. :hilarious:
     
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  15. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    thanks for all the replies folks:)
    sorry for the confusion Jivvy, when I responded I had read only one article that gave the dates paste gems were used was the 18th century and ending by the late 19th century, so I thought that since my piece is early 20th century it wouldn't be paste. I've since done more searching and it seems paste gems were used in the early 20th century, so I do think mine is paste:)
    thanks for looking johnny:) I don't think they are the same marks.
    I would say a refraction. I'll take some outside photos to better show how they sparkle:)
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    In which case they should have been called Vltava or Moldau stones.:playful: The Rhine is nowhere near Bohemia. Mind you, rhinestone is much easier to say than vltavastone.:wacky:
     
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  17. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Marketing people definitely care more about ease of pronunciation than geography. :p
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think it is just an anglicised version of Rheinstein, the old German term for that clear rock crystal found in the river Rhine.
     
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  19. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    here are some photos outside:)
    DSCF9800.jpg DSCF9802.jpg DSCF9803.jpg DSCF9782.jpg DSCF9794.jpg
     
  20. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    How big are the round sections across? They look bigger in this photo! So pretty!
     
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