Sioux Nation Indian Trade Musket Buffalo Hide Wrapped "Help"

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  1. Mario

    Mario Well-Known Member

  2. Skinflint

    Skinflint Member

    Hi Komokwa,

    I know this OP is quite old, however, your reply matches very closely to a caplock rifle in my possession…including a “burst” barrel, no butt-plate, iron nail decoration, sheet metal trigger guard, and leather strapping. It appears to be a repaired/refitted cap lock where perhaps the original mechanism broke and a salvage one used to replace. I don’t think it is a conversion from flintlock but a repaired cap lock. If you have any thoughts about this piece, I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks IMG_4140.jpeg IMG_4139.jpeg IMG_4141.jpeg IMG_4143.jpeg IMG_4144.jpeg IMG_4142.jpeg
     
  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    @Skinflint ........ tag me , like I've done here to you ...specially if u need me in on a 7 year old thread ! OK ?...:happy:

    I have a bad sinus cold , so I'm a lot off my game , so I'll tag @the blacksmith for now , and reply off the cuff as to what I see at a glance.
     
  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    That's a strange split.....
    I'm not thrilled that the gun seems to be all one color ... except , the nipple assembly and the stock that sits next to it...

    Missing the lock plate.... so no info there , but can you read the markings on the hammer ! ??

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    worth looking at.....

    https://korns.org/gunsmiths/percussion-conversion-3122023/percussion-conversion-3122023.html


    Maybe......... ' maybe ' .... a flintlock conversion..... and when it was pressed into service..... too strong a charge , poorly formed ball combined to blow the gun to hell..... rendering it a throw away..... at the time !!

    I'm a story teller..... and that kinda fits..... but there could be other explanations...

    Seasons Greetings !
     
  5. Skinflint

    Skinflint Member

    @komokwa, Thanks for the help on using the site and thoughts about the gun. I also looked closely at the hammer and couldn’t find any markings or numbers. I haven’t attempted to clean anything which might provide better clarity on any markings if they exist. I’ll keep looking and update if I come across any new information. Thanks again.
     
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  6. the blacksmith

    the blacksmith Well-Known Member

    I have to say from the outset that I know next to nothing about firearms, that said two things spring to mind, possibly three......................

    How many indiginous Indians were literate at this point........ Were they even allowed firearms I wonder. Also I wonder at the provenance of this piece, because the nail decoration seems more North African to me.
    All the above, must be taken with a couple of pounds of salt, as as I said, my knowedge of firearms is scant in the extreme.
     
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