Help w/ID Hammered Metal Cups Marked Denmark

hi everyone. i found these yesterday and have not been able to find this mark anywhere online. I'm really not sure what the metal composition of these cups is. they don't really look like silver, but they don't look like pewter either. they stand just under 3 inches in height. none of the cups have a very strong, easily read stamp on the base. i've provided the best pictures i can of the art. i think if you look at all three images of the marks you can get a pretty good sense of it. i would really like to figure out who made them and possibly when. any help will be greatly appreciated...thanks

 

i was searching google using some other language and i found this:

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  A hallmark with three birds on a branch in Denmark is a vintage 830 silver pin.Here's some information about Danish silver hallmarks:
  • Three Tower Mark:This mark was the official city mark of Copenhagen starting in 1608. It became the national mark for Denmark in 1893. The mark guaranteed a minimum silver purity of 826/1000.The design of the mark changed slightly each year, and the numbers below the mark indicated the year.
• 830S or 925S imprint:After 1961, Danish silver was identified by an 830S or 925S imprint.A mark with two towers indicates silverplate.
• Swedish year markings:Swedish year markings can help date a particular item.
• Designer initialsesigner initials can help date a particular item.

it had occurred to me these might be 830 silver, because it doesn't look like sterling, but it still doesn't explain who made these. i'm still hoping someone out there knows something.

 

Hmmm - that first sentence is just odd, was it some sort of AI response? With those dark spots and pits, they look to me like pewter with some soldered repairs, but you have them in hand. They are not Danish .830 silver, if so there would be a numeric fineness and/or a 3-tower mark present.

For what it's worth, I played with one of your pics - looks me like three birds on a turret, branches, and maybe an 'LL' and cross below. Checked my pewter references and found no match, would guess mid 20th century...



~Cheryl

 

hi, yes, it was an AI response. those pictures are very bad because they were taken with my phone camera and the lighting wasn't great. there really isn't any "pitting" visible when you look at any of them with magnification under good light. also they're not dark. they're the same color as the outsides as photographed.

 

Sorry, I'm confused by what you're saying, but your pictures show numerous spots of dark oxidation and small even darker spots that appear to be pits, both typical of pewter damage related to moisture - as said, you have them in hand, but I'm having a hard time understanding how they can be "the same color as the outsides as photographed". Will note that I've collected Scandinavian silver and pewter for close to half a century - to my eye, your pieces look to be pewter and they're not silver. Hopefully someone else will be along to try and help you find your answers...

~Cheryl

 

again, they're bad photos. if i try to sell these i will definitely get better pictures.

 

I am confused. Are you saying those spots in the photo below, that look like pitting, aren't there in real life?

 

they're nowhere near as visible or noticeable when you look at the bases with your eyes in good light. obviously they're there, though. also, to my eye when looking at these cups they look more like silver than pewter, but who knows. possibly silver plate. what i would really like to find out is who made them. and apparently that's going to be impossible.

 

dont see the 3 towers but i see at least 2 birds. am i the only one who sees the birds?

 

No, you're not the only one.
(Je ziet ze niet vliegen.)

 

3 birds , actually..

 

It looks alike a geraldine with 3 birds above a 3 petal cross or perhaps a 4 petal clover

 

it looks like there's 3 birds as well as 3 bases underneath them. then there's another element that sort of swoops out in front of them and probably behind them. when i bought these i thought i'd find this mark, no problem. it's a very ornate mark.

 

Its some kind of arm of coat/geraldine/shild. Top part is visible in the first pic and the bottom part on secod and thirt.pic you posted

Idonno why but i cant find the encirkled denmark mark.

 

Maybe @say_it_slowly can help, likely pewter marks.

 

These are some of the dark spots and pits that I see on your cups, typical of pewter:






This Danish pewter bowl shows similar surface damage both inside and out:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/375579645552




This Danish pewter vase shows similar surface damage on the interior:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295468993465




~Cheryl

 

I will check my books but I doubt they will have a mark this modern.

I did find this listing describing the mark (no photo) as a crown with 3 birds and 2 trees.


https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-danish-pewter-denmark-cordial-1794071942
Description:This pewter aperitif cordial set consists of four (4) hand hammered cups and one (1) tray with shell handles. The cups are each approx.. 3" high x 2 ¼" wide at top and the tray measures approx.. 13" long x 6" wide. The cups are marked with a three bird/two trees on a crown logo. The tray is marked "Denmark, 167" along with the same logo

 

You are so good @say_it_slowly ...!!!

Nice find !!!!!!!

 

well, that's definitely it. i don't remember seeing the tray when i found these. it might have been in the cart too, but i don't think it was there. several pieces by Georg Jensen come up when i google Denmark 167 mark, but not this mark. i do not believe this is a Georg Jensen piece. anyway, thank you for your help.

 

I did come upon what may be a version of your mark with the added words Mandix Pewter.

Unfortunately it's only mentioned in one listing and with a blurry photo in the other so i can't tell for sure. Just wanted to pass it on in case it leads anywhere.

I tried to enlarge the blurry image but might just have made it worse.

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/36340-pewter-creamer-sugar-tray-denmark-mandix



https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/danish-pottery-pewter-arts-crafts-tea-408425951

"The tray that came with the set when we acquired it has a darker color than the pewter mounts on the pottery pieces. It is quite heavy, weighing over 1 lb. 3 oz. It has the word Mandix in capital letters; a handsome logo consisting of three birds looking to the left alternating with two trees; the word pewter; and the word Denmark in an oval."