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Featured Age of Mosley's Revolving Inkwells

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by TWG, Apr 18, 2025.

  1. TWG

    TWG Member

    These small crown-topped inkwells are heavy, beautiful little things, made for writing slopes, that appear from time to time in mostly UK-based antique shops. Would anyone out there have a firm clue as to when these were manufactured? I've seen everything from the 1830's to about 1900. Many thanks! Mosleys 1.JPG IMG_E1795.JPG
     
  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  4. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Can you see a patent number on them anywhere? Could give a clue as to date
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  6. TWG

    TWG Member

    No, sorry, no markings.
     
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    TWG Member

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  8. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Good find Komo !
     
  9. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Not sure what else I can add to whatever else has already been mentioned. They are definitely a pair of writing-case inkwells, with threaded caps. They command a lot of attention online mostly because people buy writing cases and need the inkwells, so if you have any spare ones, they tend to get snapped up.
     
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  10. TWG

    TWG Member

    This was one glowing description I found some time back that aligns with your sentiments ... one that dates the patent at least to around 1830. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/pair-antique-georgian-mosley-270626743
     
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  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  12. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    I only have 3 writing slopes so I'm no authority, Shangas is the person. Personally I'm not convinced the worthpoint inkwells are 1830, in my early days I spent a lot of my time bottle digging and know what late Victorian glass looks like Vs Georgian, of course these could have been free blown into a wooden mould with clear glass then ground and polished but in the digging world (who collects antique inkwells) I didn't remember ever hearing of such early bottles and you never see them in early writing slopes. I would like to see close up's of the inside of the lid, top of the neck of the bottle and the base of the bottle but I suspect these to be post 1860.
     
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  13. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I must admit I have had many writing slopes through my hands and non had ink bottles.
    They did not have the space to put one in.

    They were designed to be portable and got tipped up and carried in bags, if they were to have an ink bottle it would only be one to save on space.

    I have seen many in what we call Ink Stands, or Desk Stands.

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    I have two in a detachable ink stand that fits into my Edwardian bureau bookcase.

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  14. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    I see what you mean but writing slopes defiantly had ink wells inside, external and internal screws to the neck allowed more secure lids, before that corks were the means of preventing the ink from coming out. This was an old thread showing both of my slopes and some fantastic slopes from Shangas
    https://www.antiquers.com/threads/anglo-indian-carved-ebony-writing-slope-1840c.17526/
     
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  15. TWG

    TWG Member

    Here are a couple closeups ... hope these help! The inkwells are also perfect fits for the side drawers on Davenports, where my 2 reside Mosleys closeup 2.JPG Mosleys closeup 1.JPG IMG_E1801.JPG
     
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  16. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    Very interesting, I do think they have a chance of being early because there isn't a thread on the glass bottle, external and internal threads came in around 1880's, I'm in no doubt there was a standard size for inkwells so they could be replaced, it would be very interesting to know the exact size of the bottles as I have a very early davenport desk (around 1790-1800) it also has the same recess for inkwells, I've just measured mine to 47mm. Now you have posted a small glimps of your rosewood davenport I would like to see more :)
    In summery, I do think your inkwells are early 1) they look ground and polished 2) they have cemented brass threads attached to the glass 3) inside there is a cork seal 4) the brass looks (on the inside) to be lacquered.
    Here is my davenport desk https://www.antiquers.com/threads/reposted-with-better-photos-davenport-desk-by-t-wilson.53482/
     
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  17. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I've been into writing cases since I was a kid. At one point I had a collection of over a dozen - these days I've whittled that down to two (I had three, but I sold one a couple of weeks ago).

    Inkwells on writing slopes / cases were almost always the threaded type, with a screw-on cap. Anything else (stoppers, corks, etc) just wasn't secure enough to hold the ink in without leaking.

    Of course, you also had "traveling inkwells", these were inkwells with glass liners and lockable lids on top. The lids came with leather seals designed to stop the ink leaking out. I have one writing case with one of these inside it. If you didn't want a threaded inkwell, this was the alternative that you had to use.

    The one I have actually didn't have its original glass liner. I got SUPREMELY lucky in finding a little plastic jar that fit the interior *exactly*, and I used that as a replacement instead.
     
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  18. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    I wonder if you know DSCF2320 (Medium).JPG how these original wooden caps worked with screw lids?
     
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  19. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Wouldn't be able to tell you without more photos. Looks like a lovely case, though.
     
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  20. TWG

    TWG Member

    Thanks much @808 raver ! These 2 guys are 44cm all around, but as said they are heavier than most box inkwells I've hefted. They didn't come with the desk, I added later.

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    We dated the desk to mid-1850's, thanks to the locksmith brand of Parnell and Puckridge. She's a stunner, apparently originating out of an estate in Cheltenham, a wealthy spa town in the Cotswolds. While unbranded, I was told the quality was of such caliber that it may have been from the workshops of Gillow of Lancaster.
     
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