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Featured RCD with no mark

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Chinoiserie, Apr 26, 2025.

  1. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I grabbed this today. Quick look at the price, quick feel, no damage, gold stopper. Whoo.

    Now I am asking why is there no RCD back stamp? If it was seconds it wouldn't have gold stopper. Confused.

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    Chinoiserie, Apr 26, 2025
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  2. kentworld

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  3. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Silver stoppers identify the item as second quality piece. This is usually accompanied by the basal Royal Crown Derby cypher being scratched through.
    Your pic on my monitor looks silver.
     
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  4. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I have rose tinted glasses. Half full and over flowing.

    I have often struggled to distinguish between the two colours of stopper. It looks different in different light. It looked silver when I bought it then when I looked at in the beer garden it was gold. Too much Madri perhaps?
     
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  5. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I'll have another look in different light. Not sure which type of light to use though. It would be handy to have a spare stopper to compare against ...
     
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  6. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    LOL
    I have an otter and a bird with gold stoppers, all fully marked up.
    I have two other animals that were silver stoppers and no marks.
    However, the latter two have vanished, not seen them in 5-8 years, maybe in a box at my lock-up.

    I read were some stoppers were left off if imported to the US so they could be examined for contraband, then unscrupulous dealers were plugging them with gold stoppers when they were substandard silver.
     
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  7. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Ha. I'm not sure what's worse. Filling them with hash or switching the stoppers.

    Mine has something inside. I tried taking the stopper out in the beer garden but didn't want to force it, in case it crashed down onto the concrete hard standing. I might try again.

    Maybe it is silver and unmarked because of quality issues. It amazes me on what the factory sees as a flaw though. They expect absolute perfection.
     
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  8. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

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  9. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Here's my two gold ones at home.

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    Here's the missing ones, actually one was gold and one was silver, but you can see where the mark on the silver one has been covered.


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  10. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

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  11. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    I've never seen these before. Are they shelf sitters? When you first talked about stoppers, I thought maybe they were salt/pepper shakers. Have you figured out yet why it's a second? First discovered RCD while reading an Ann Rice vampire or witches book. She talks about receiving a set for 16 or 24 RCD china. Forget the pattern, but looked it up and it is a show stopper. That's when I started paying attention to that brand.
     
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  12. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Hi. They're paper weights. The stopper is removed and they are filled with some sort of ballast. Not sure why it's a second but they are very particular about the quality of what they sell.
     
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  13. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Woo-hoo

    I found my two missing birds at my lock-up today, they were in a carnival glass bowl which was stored in a crate full of Wedgwood pottery.
    I think it's over 8 years since I last saw them.
    I brought them both home and the bowl to be cleaned.

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  14. lvetterli

    lvetterli Well-Known Member

    Lovely! The carnival bowl looks to be Fenton's Holly, marigold with a 3in1 edge.

    Linda
     
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