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Help To Identify George IV Pewter Jug Please

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by John Brassey, May 20, 2025.

  1. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    This quart (2pint) pewter jug with offset handle stands about 23cm tall. It is marked with a crown and GRIV for George IV and a lion rampant crown and Britannia in hallmark style. It is also stamped C over SY and inside the jug is an impressed pair of hands and THOs MAR - the rest is unclear.

    The vase has three incised words that I can’t make out.

    Can anyone here help please?

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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I read THOs WAR, with a W.
    Thomas Warren or Warner?
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I see Thos (for Thomas) followed by Warr_____.

    Debora
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I read the middle incised word as "House." Could it be followed by "England?"

    Debora
     
  5. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    Yes I really must spell check my posts!
     
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  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I see Thomas Warre.. so Warren makes sense.
     
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  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Sharpened & contrasted the inside for those 3 words/names, but still don't know what it says, even rotated it.....maybe not English language or someone else might see them better??!!!

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  8. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    Thank you. I think one of the words is Croydon on the outskirts of London
     
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  9. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It might be an owner's name.
     
  10. architrave

    architrave Well-Known Member

    Last edited: May 22, 2025
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  11. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

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  12. architrave

    architrave Well-Known Member

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  13. architrave

    architrave Well-Known Member

    Elsie Englefield has some relevant comments in her "Short History of Pewter" (1933).

    In case anyone out there doesn't have a copy to hand she says:

    "Until about forty years ago the public-house trade was in a very flourishing condition. At the Bank-holiday seasons the Pewter pot maker worked early to late and the Pewter-pot engraver travelled from firm to firm and engraved the beer tankards on the premises. The silverware engravers called his engraving 'scratching'. As the rates of pay were from 1s. to 2s. per dozen tankards, irrespective of the amount of lettering, and also considering the rapidity with which he had to work, the term was not inapplicable.

    The stealing of Pewter tankards was a sore trial to the publican. Engraving was introduced to prevent or at least lessen this evil. Sometimes the tankards were engraved "Stolen from the --" and then would follow the name of the house. Tankards thus stolen were often used for the making of counterfeit coins"
     
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