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Featured Glasses, take a look at these wine glasses

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by daveydempsey, May 24, 2025.

  1. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    half the price must be due to the age and condition...... WOW !!!!
     
  3. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Jacobite-No joke !
     
  4. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Seriously over my pay-grade.
     
  5. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    I like the seahorse one. But must admit, I know bupkis about this kind of glass.
     
  6. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Supporters of Bonnie Prince Charlie raised the historic Jacobite glassware to toast him and show their loyalty to the idea of restoring the Stuart monarchy even though it was deemed an act of treason following the Battle of Culloden in April 1746 and punishable by death.

    The six "exceptional" Jacobite glasses, which are to be sold in single lots by North Cave and Beverley-based Hawleys Auctioneers, are described as a "historic reminder of a pivotal moment in Scottish history, one which would also change the course of British, European and world history".


    They could fetch substantial sums at auction with estimates ranging from £2,200 to £12,500 each.

    Auctioneer Caroline Hawley said: “They are treason glasses and the six in our auction are exceptional examples. They all relate to the Jacobite rising and were used by supporters of Bonnie Prince Charlie and the Stuart monarchy. That’s what makes them so valuable and so collectable.


    "There will be global interest in them, from museums, collectors and historians across the world, because they are so rare and they tell a story of one of the most turbulent and significant times in our history."

    The Jacobite rising began after the overthrow of Catholic King James II of England (James VII of Scotland) by Protestant William of Orange in 1688. The Jacobites launched a series of rebellions to restore the exiled Stuart dynasty, specifically James II, his son James, ‘The Old Pretender’ and grandson Charles – Bonnie Prince Charlie - ‘The Young Pretender’.

    This culminated in the last pitched battle on British soil – Culloden, the final and bloodiest battle of the Jacobite Rising. Around 1,600 men were slain, 1,500 of them Jacobites. Their leader, Bonnie Prince Charlie, fled to France, never returning to Britain.

    The aftermath of the battle saw brutal suppression, with many Jacobites hunted down and killed. Support for the Stuart cause was effectively crushed. However, in secret gatherings, Jacobites pledged allegiance by using ornate glasses hand engraved with Jacobite symbols such as roses representing Bonnie Prince Charlie, oak leaves for the House of Stuart, and birds in flight representing the Stuart family’s return. Some carry Latin mottoes such as Redeat (May he return) and Revirescit (Let it grow again).

    The fierce clampdown on Jacobite activities after Culloden has led to the belief that most Jacobite glasses were made and engraved in England, commissioned by individuals, families or by the secret clubs themselves.
     
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  7. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    and there was me thinking i might look for one in the charity shops :playful: the jacobites are a new one on me, so great bit of info all round ;)
     
  8. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Davey...an excellent summary!
     
  9. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I often look out for those stems with twists when looking at glasses in the shops. No luck so fair.
     
  10. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I've seen them on the Antique Road trip with Paul Laidlaw. Think they only go for £150 to £300 without the history. The ones listed though are right up there with important artefacts. An important part of history. They should be in a museum and hopefully they will be.
     
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  11. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The seller is going to have some FUN watching those go. I've watched here for a Georgian wineglass of any sort to turn up at a reasonable price. I've yet to see one at any price. I'm guessing Davey won't be bidding either.
     
  12. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    The auctioneer Caroline Hawley is a presenter on Bargain Hunt, her husband is an ex footballer who organises the auctions, you never actually see him.

    I won't deal with them after they stiffed me on a clearance in Beverley.
    So I won't be bidding.
    They do have some nice lots there though.
     
  13. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    I sold one of those Mckee Bottoms Up glasses many years ago. I think mine was in a carmel color. It had the Pat number on it in teeny numbers.
     
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  14. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    What I know about this time in history, I learned from the Outlander books.
     
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  15. vitry-le-francois

    vitry-le-francois Well-Known Member

    nice stuff but the buyer premium is outrageous.
     
  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Amazing to have so many Jacobite glasses in one auction. Also amazing they are still called "treason" glasses, even though the Jacobites supported the legitimate king.
    I have been present at dinners in Scotland where the first toast was "to the king across the water".
     
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  17. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    The six glasses in the auction were originally owned by Scottish Jacobite authority Dr Geoffrey Seddon, author of The Jacobites and their Drinking Glasses, and which he sold at auction 17 years ago to a private collector.
     
  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    So..killer provenance in addition to everything else.
     
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