Featured Not sure if sterling or plate?

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Frank, Jun 2, 2025.

  1. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    I know Clemens Oskamp did sterling, coin, and plated flatware. How well were they marked? I'm pretty sure these are plated, but I wanted to check first.
    What do y'all think? Plated, as I suspect, or better, as I hope?





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  2. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Very pretty pattern. I wouldn't mind a set of these. :p
     
  3. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    It's sterling silver, the mark indicates 11 troy ounces, 2 pennyweight parts silver per 12 troy ounces, 222/240 pennyweight is the same percentage as 925/1000 - the pattern is typically called 'Engraved Lily', produced with slight variations by numerous makers...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  4. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    So the mark does NOT indicate the weight of the spoon, obviously. The tablespoons, marked 12oz, weigh 58 to 60 grams, and the teaspoons average about 25 grams (see photos attached). Rather, as you explained, the marks indicate the purity as a percentage? I'm still not sure I understand. If the tablespoons are 11 troy oz, 2 pennyweight per 12 troy oz of silver, wouldn't the percentage be the same for the teaspoons?

    I'm not doubting your explanation, but it's a tad confusing. Can you recommend an online source for Clemens Oskamp markings? tbs.JPG tbs1.JPG tsp.JPG tsp1.JPG
     
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  5. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Ahhh, suppose I should have asked for a better pic and more information, thank you for clear images of the weight marks on both sizes of your spoons - this is what I saw in the pic you originally posted:

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    Your spoons are triple plate, '12oz' indicating 12 troy ounces used for plating per gross on the tablespoons, and '6oz' indicating 6 troy ounces used for plating per gross on the teaspoons (an industry standard) - sorry, I have no information on marks specific to Oskamp.

    The information concerning the pattern remains the same...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  6. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    Your spoons are triple plate, '12oz' indicating 12 troy ounces used for plating per gross on the tablespoons, and '6oz' indicating 6 troy ounces used for plating per gross on the teaspoons (an industry standard) - sorry, I have no information on marks specific to Oskamp.

    The information concerning the pattern remains the same...

    ~Cheryl[/QUOTE]

    Cheryl, thank you for the clarification, and I'm sorry the earlier photos were not clear. Based on the look and feel, I thought they were plated. You've confirmed my suspicions, but dashed my hopes...
     
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  7. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member


    Eh, my eyesight isn't what it used to be, same with my memory, thought an '11.2oz' mark a bit odd on that piece, but American silver marks can be anomalous. As I said, should have asked, but might have been nice if you'd posted or mentioned there were two different numeric marks...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  8. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    Sorry about that. I didn't realize at first that the tablespoons had a different mark than the teaspoons.
     
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