Featured Thrift store art....

Discussion in 'Art' started by verybrad, Dec 26, 2022.

  1. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I don't think that's a student's work. Unusual name. Do you think any relation to Wolf Kibel?

    Debora
     
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  2. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Thanks Debora. That’s an interesting possibility. However so far I couldn’t find a connection/link. Maybe grandchild? Not sure if Joseph (Wolf’s son) had children.
     
  3. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Yes, students can have money. My mother custom framed my high school pastel work. I went to college painting courses with many adults 50-80 years old. My husband works in a shop that frames student work constantly as well as professional works for big name artists, museums, and corporate clients. A frame is one method of deduction, but not the only one.

    I've worked in pastel, so the handling of the media and observation ability is what I'm going off of. It doesn't mean I'm right, because naive, primitive, pop, abstraction and more exist for art exploration that may not look highly technical. I know plenty of artists who are trained (have a degree, have shown work, maybe teach) who I would consider to be ...still learning and working at what looks like a student level. So, its just a personal opinion of skill, but we don't know unless we find the person.
     
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  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    All I know is it was something someone considered worth framing. I've seen plenty of framed "kid art" signed with the child's name and age or school grade. Some of that was more interesting than a lot of professional pieces in my amateur opinion.
     
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  5. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Ditto Mirana- Re:'naive, primitive, pop, abstraction and more exist for art exploration that may not look highly technical', and I might say- valuable to many pickers.
    J Basquiat was a self-taught artist whose roots were in graffiti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAMO), and some of his original pieces command millions.
    If you ran into to this at the Thrift today would you guess it might put your great/great/etc grandkids thru college ?

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  6. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    He gives himself away with the crown lol, but i would have picked that up no matter who did it because of his cute lil face. :D
     
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  7. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    For sure! I always say "student", "amateur", or "hobbyist" is not the same as "bad". It talks about an estimation of how long an artist has worked on art, and with/without guidance, because with time you make different choices and become more familiar with your media, observation, etc. It doesn't mean you don't create appealing pieces that people love. :D
     
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  8. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Here's a guy who rings kid art to life:
     
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  9. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Do think the majority of casual Pickers would though ?
     
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  10. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Enh even certain art lovers wouldn't either. Pop art is it's own thing.
     
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  11. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I might not. Pop art doesn't "sing" to me.
     
  12. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Famous Picasso quote-“Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up.
    For Picasso unleashing his 'inner child' artistically worked, maybe not with all of us,but w/ collectors-oh yeah.
    Obviously Vermeer and Caravaggio had a different approach !
    PS-When you study painters it helps to remember clues-like Mirana re Basquiat's repeated crown motif .
    If you study enough 'museum' art-you learn what to look for,even if personally you don't care for a piece-your bank account might.
    PS-Who knows why critics,curators & gallery owners anoint some painters, some of it's still crap to me-the auction results aint.
     
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  13. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    (Don't tell anyone but) I dislike Warhols and think an artificial bubble between a few heavily invested bidders maintains an inflated market. If you "invest" in art, you gotta keep your "stock" high, even for an artist who produced five-figures worth of art pieces with a factory of assistants... :pompous: Good for him to get that money, but for the art....not for me.
     
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  14. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Thanks for comments. I have identified the artist as Dr Shelley Kibel. She very kindly responded to my mail. She is the founder of a organisation called: Creative Health. From their website: ‘She has a special interest in the creative arts and how they can facilitate healing. She is a Reiki Master, Qi Gong Practitioner, artist, writer and flautist’ Sounds like a interesting lady.

    Also the acclaimed artist Wolf Kibel was her great uncle (her grandfathers brother). That’s very cool!

    https://www.creativehealth.co.za/

     
  15. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

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    Good comments. Picasso was such an interesting and complex person. I got this very cool vintage painting ‘copy or work after’ Picasso's "Still Life with Lemon and Oranges" 1936 Cubist painting. I think it could be 60-70’s. Only paid about $2 and I think it’s great. Couldn’t find anything on P. Martin
     
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  16. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    That’s both amazing and shocking.
     
  17. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    I never liked Warhol either.What's truly important about him is he consciously exposed the American Corporate Art Business as a commodity or investment-as opposed to any noble aesthetic movement,that's why he called his studio 'The Factory'.
    Rich people sell this stuff to other rich people so the new owners can impress other rich people. The Dealers need to keep 'discovering' new artists so that rich buyers can be a few seconds ahead of the curve from their rich neighbors-making them a tad hipper culturally than their wealthy pals.
     
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  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I understand what he was about, but wouldn't want him on my wall either. Then again I've never understood investing in something that goes in and out of favor, and up and down in price. If it goes on your wall it needs to make you happy to look at it.
     
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  19. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Why not buy art you like (if you even know or care about art)-and make your money with hedge funds or real estate ?
    Trying to guess what's going to be hot /not will be tough if you don't know anything of the market.
     
  20. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Have found a fair bit of late but no home runs. Here is what I have photographed so far.

    This is a very large pastel painting signed G. Cooker. Have not found anything about the artist and think probably amateur. Not the most accomplished but also not without charm. Bought for $7.00.
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    This is a vintage edition of a block print by Utagawa Hiroshige. Framed oddly and possibly trimmed but only $2.00.
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    This medium oil on canvas is by KY artist Walt Harned (1942-2010). Bought for $5.00.
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    This small oil is by well respected Canadian artist Ray Cohen. Bought for $4.00.
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    This is a reverse paint on glass souvenir for the University of Illinois. It was $3.00.
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    This is a small stitched string art piece. Can't say I have seen anything quite like it. Maybe Asian? Only $2.00.
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    This is a large quilt mixed media piece by local artist Deborah Fell. Was $8.00.
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    This large limited edition lithograph is by French artist Etienne "Ten" Fougeron (1933-2020). Was only $4.00.
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