Is this art deco vase French, Chinese, or something else?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Touchdry, Oct 17, 2019.

  1. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    I bought it in Deux-Sevres France. I posted the images onto the French pottery forum thinking that they might be able to quickly point out who made it. But I was told that the mark is in fact Chinese for "Middle Right" meaning that it is from the Empire of the middle right - China!

    What do you think? Have a look at the marks on the base - I thought I saw a D and a J within an O ... plus I think I have seen that mark before ... somewhere! So, who made this? How old is it - new or old? And where does it come from?

    I am basically confused by it ... and the mark will render the answer.

    Thanks for being there.

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  2. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Well the vase does look rather new though the numbers don't strike me as Chinese. Anyway, I wonder if this might be the mark you've seen though I'm not suggesting that it is.

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  3. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    JMHO, I don’t see Art Deco style here.
     
  4. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    Its a van briggle pottery vase
     
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  5. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Nouveau, if anything. Looks Belgian to me.
     
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  6. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    It's a van briggle pottery bud vase! Go on google and type in "van briggle pottery bud vase" similar vases will pop up.
     
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    rink28 Well-Known Member

  8. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    They may "pop up" on the web, but that doesn't look like any Van Briggle mark I've ever seen,
     
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  9. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    And how do you reconcile the dry base vs glazed in addition to the "no match" of what can be seen of the OP's marking?
     
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  10. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Don't think it's Van Briggle.
     
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  11. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    Underneath the mark it appears to be "ggle". Maybe i read it wrong my apologies
     
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  12. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I don't think that's a Van Briggle mark either. Although the color is close.
     
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  13. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    It's a beautiful glaze.
     
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  14. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Well those guys on the French pottery forum must need glasses! Not Chinese for sure, molded not thrown so factory not studio pottery ....plus glaze was uncontrolled so no great art either, big ol grind off on the base. Monochromes or crystallines need the glaze to end just above or at the footrim to get in the running ...:bucktooth:
    Could be wrong but not very old, maybe 70's ....don't know where in Europe but European IMHO

    ps I'm on the phone so only limited viewing capability will take a look again later...
     
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  15. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Definitely not Van Briggle. My gut says Belgian.
     
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  16. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all your responses people! The concensus seems to be that it is modern (70's), factory molded and glazed, European - French or Belgium (funny - I've just begun to look at Thulin, Belgium). Someone suggested that I had the mark upside down (but I think its right way up in the pic) ... I'll get back to you ... but any further ideas please let me know - thanks for all this! ... Coffee!
     
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  17. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    ... Now here's a thing ... if you look very carefully you will see the word 'FRANCE' curling around the bottom of the mark! The mark itself is a DL within an oval 0 ... but I'm still not sure what that is ... below is another image sent to me ... So who is this?
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  18. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    Here is the bottom line folks:
    Our dear friends at the Place de l'ours send their greetings and would like to inform you that this piece is a French Art pottery from Orchies (in northern France - Saint-Amand-les-Eaux) specifically made by Joseph and Emile l'Herminé-Declercq dated around 1900 ... Hurrah!! I think the aventurine glaze is ... encroyable! (Incredible!)
     
  19. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Fantastique!
     
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  20. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Nice sleuthing!
     
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