Help id-ing blind stamp

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  1. MsSuz

    MsSuz New Member

    Hello, I wonder if anyone can help to identify this blind stamp? It is on a print (lithograph) of Raoul Dufy, I believe from 1949 and likely to be in Paris. I have come across that this Dufy was done in 1949 by a publisher called Flammerion, but have also seen a publisher called Draeger Freres associated with the same print (1949) and I am wondering which publisher, if either, is correct. Thanks for any help.
     

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  2. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

    Can you post a picture of the lithograph?
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Try Pur Fil Marais.

    Debora

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  4. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    AI explains it thusly, with several links to the websites from which it got the information. (Some of which are in French.) I have not tried to look at all of the sites, but this does seem to make a logical narrative, unlike some AI results. But please take it with a grain of salt.

    "The history of "Pur Fil du Marais" paper is tied to the now-defunct Papeteries du Marais, a French paper mill known for producing high-quality paper for fine printing and artwork. The paper is recognized for its characteristic blind stamp and laid finish. "

    "History of the Marais paper mill
    The paper's legacy is connected to the Papeteries du Marais mill, not to the Marais district of Paris.
    18th century: The small paper mill known as the "manufacture du Marais" was founded in the 18th century near Jouy-sur-Morin, France.
    19th century: As demand for fine paper grew in the 19th century, the mill was acquired and modernized by Charles Delatouche, who expanded production. Delatouche focused on high-quality printing papers, which helped establish the mill's reputation.
    20th century: The Marais mill, along with other prominent French papermakers like Arches and Johannot, formed the Arjomari Group in the 1950s.
    Late 20th century: The mill was later acquired by the Arjowiggins company. By the late 20th and early 21st centuries, the French paper industry declined, and the Papeteries du Marais ceased operations after Arjowiggins went into liquidation.

    "The significance of "Pur Fil du Marais"
    "Pur Fil du Marais" (Pure Thread of the Marsh) was one of the mill's most notable products, known for its fine quality and durability.

    "Characteristics: It is a laid paper, made on a mold with parallel wires, which creates the distinctive watermark-like lines visible when held up to the light. The "pur fil" designation indicated a pure, high-quality material.
    Use by artists: It was often used for limited-edition books, fine art prints, and lithographs, with the mill's blind stamp a sign of its prestigious provenance. Notable artists who used the paper include Joan Miró and Georges Rouault.

    "Collectability: As an archival-quality paper no longer in production, original artworks printed on "Pur Fil du Marais" are highly valued by collectors. "
     
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  5. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Here is one of the more useful sites. My browser offered to automatically translate to English.

    https://www.musee-seine-et-marne.fr/fr/les-papeteries-du-marais

    "The earliest evidence of mills being established on the Grand-Morin dates back to the 16th century. Paper mills were already being built between Jouy-sur-Morin and Coulommiers. Among these mills, the one at Sainte-Marie, or Gué-Josson, reached a certain size.

    "In 1785, Louis Delagarde, owner of the Papeteries du Marais, became manager of the Arches paper mills in the Vosges mountains, near Epinal. From 1791 to 1795, assignats were produced in Jouy-sur-Morin. Gradually, these production units were modernized, and paper machines replaced manual production.

    "In 1828, Félix Delagarde founded the "Papeteries du Marais et de Sainte-Marie." This company then comprised thirteen mills. In 1953, the Arches, Johannot, Marais, and Rives factories merged into a single company: ARJOMARI. ARJOMARI was now part of the international ARJO-WIGGINS APPELTON group, and the factory specialized in the production of specialty papers. Since then, the production unit has been integrated into the Canadian CASCADES group.

    "With the exception of one unit, the factories of the groups present in the valley are now closed. Two of them, located in Boissy-le-Châtel, are undergoing a reconversion, being taken over by the Galleria Continua, a private contemporary art gallery, and by Lucy and Jorge Orta, contemporary visual artists, who manufacture and deploy their installations there."
     
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