HELP w/AGE & MAKER OF LARGE ANTIQUE NAUTICAL PAINTING FOUND TODAY

I found this beauty at a local thrift store today. I know it has cracks in the paint & is dirty but the colors are still great in my opinion.
Can anyone tell me about what years it's from? It has a rough 'weave'? like canvas (maybe from a burlap bag?) that looks really old to me?
I couldn't find a signature - BUT, there is a weird paint stroke at bottom center that I thought might be a signature?
And you might not notice at first but there is a group of sailors? in the front of the center ship - they are black, plus the unusual canvas it's painted on - could this be a Haitian painting? (I mention the canvas because I'v seen a lot of Haitian paintings & since they don't have a art supply store around, they will paint on anything they can find - including burlap )
It measures 28" x 20 and the frame is another 3" all around.
Finally I took photos outside in sun & it looks more yellow to me than in person? so I took last one inside with flash.
Thanks for any help - did I hit a home rum??!!



BELOW IS POSSIBLE SIGNATURE? (Bottom center on painting)


BELOW IS PAINTING PHOTOGRAPHED INSIDE w/FLASH

 

I think you scored there - nice old piece, it has been relined but you have yourself (maybe) a 17thc painting!!

Excellent!

 

If you notice the way the brushstrokes don't change from background to rigging, there's reason to believe it's a commercially made piece of art...

Edit: Photo added

 

Not sure if it's an actual painting or some type of printing process. Also condition is really rough.

 

I'm gonna go with some type of reproduction printing process

 

So am I.
And why do people keep paintings in a damp garage or over a hot stove? Or both?

 

It happens: My occasionally flooded, un-airconditioned storage unit.



Now gone, hallelujah!


Fun to look at, @journeymagazine

 

I'm a bit skeptical; the very flamboyant style does not strike me as being of the period; and I'm mindful that one can go to any of the "replica/reproduction painting" dealers online and order a hand-painted nautical painting, in any style; and one can specify "with craquelure" if one likes that effect.

 

That.

 

Agree, too flamboyant and unrealistic for a period painting. At the same time that gives it a fun kind of drama. It is the type of thing you see in café's overhere.
( @Mansons2005 , bruin café! )

 

Personally, I'd like to carry on the theory that it is old. That will necessitate your finding a new (old) frame for it which looks less 'perfect.'

 

And, please, cancel my reservations on the HMS Henrietta.

 

Are there two layers of canvas or was I seeing the actual canvas through the breaks and at the right side edge?

 

First - I looked closely with a magnifying glass - it IS a painting.
Here is close up of edge of canvas - think back was white - a long time ago!

 

It's not a painting. Its made to look like a original painting. I can't remember what the correct term for the printing process is though.

 

It is a painting - I can see and feel where a paint drop pooled & I can see where the brush strokes ended etc.
I appreciate your opinion rink - but also I am looking at it in person + with a magnifying glass.

 

I'd agree it is a painting; I'm just pointing out that there are dozens of dealers who sell hand-painted oil paintings, their designs, or made to order, with any signature you'd like, with or without craquelure; so the fact that it is an actual painting, or has craquelure, doesn't say much about whether it is or is not one of those factory paintings.

 

Sorry but this isnt a original. I have seen these types of reproduction artwork of paintings and they are made to fool people. It's fake. Take it to any local art gallery near you if you want to get a second opinion.

 

Victorian Oil Paintings from Europe real or repro.com

"The other telltale sign that the surface of the images is not right is the bright fluorescence under long wave black light. The heavy textured varnish is clear under visible (room) lighting but glows white all over under black light."

(acrylic) varnish

 

are you thinking of giclée?