cobalt porcelain mark

it is a very high quality jug - appears to be flow blue decoration insets on cobalt - or maybe entirely just painted - very lovely but I can’t seem to figure out the maker - German probably - appreciate any feedback - advanced thanxies

 

Pretty, reminds me a bit of Gouda pieces.

 

The mark almost looks Cyrillic, but probably isn't.

 

I think you are in to something there - now I am thinking it may be Russian mark - I did a quick search and it will be a LOT of searching and sorting but I will use it as a launching point….

 

Does not look Cyrillic to me, what looks like "Я" (the first letter) has no tilted left line like the real "Я". Does not resemble any known to me Soviet or Imperial Russian porcelain mark. If it were Cyrillic, it would be "ЯВ" But of course, thorough research is always recommended, something can be found.

Is it champleve enameled or just painted?

 

I thought for some reason that it was 3 letters in the mark - maybe like a backwards P an L and B… I also don’t know what clampleve painting is - I thought clampleve was Asian metal work like cloisonné - it is enamel - not unlike Meissen wares - I did a google lens search and a very similar painted vase by Meissen showed up - I know it’s not a Meissen mark - but it is a splendid quality jug

 

When I first saw this I wondered if it was a Boch / Boch Keramis mark as it resembles some I've seen. I can't find evidence that it is, though, Boch made some items that were somewhat similar.

All that to say that I don't know but since it's not been identified yet, thought I'd see if someone else knows more about Boch or if it's even a possibility.

Some of their marks
https://theceramicsmarksguide.com/belgium-marks-identification/royal-boch/

Example

 

We have seen this mark before (2021) https://www.antiquers.com/threads/art-nouveau-vase-maker.65800/

No ID then either.

 

Rclinftl, sorry for the unclear question - yes, you are right about enamel, I was asking is it is enamel or paint, as I could not see it on the pictures. Indirectly you answered me that it is painted. Beautifull thing, b.t.w, congratulations for the find!

Not Cyrillic is the only thing I am (somewhat) sure. Cyrillic is my mother tongue's alphabet.

kentworld, well spotted, a difficult riddle

 

There is a Facebook group: ANTIQUE EUROPEAN PORCELAIN COLLECTORS

Someone there might have a clue. If you're not on FB, I am a member of the group and can post a query there if you're OK with me snagging the photos. This one is bugging me because I have seen it before, but an aging brain is a slippery thing, LOL!

 

Amazing that the mark has been here before and still no ID.

I just wanted to mention that I'm wondering if the first letter is S. It almost could be STB?

 

The mark in the link to the old thread that I posted has a clearer mark and it doesn't look like an S to me.

 

I agree, that mark looks less like an S. Here they are together.

 

OK, looking at it from a calligrapher's perspective, that could be simply a capital B. But I can't shake the feeling that the first part is a backwards L and P and the right-hand part is B.

 

yes Kent - could you please post it in FB and get back to us - thanxies

 

Done! Will report back if anyone replies.

 

Well, I got a lot of silence and I posted on two groups. A fellow member on one of them who I know to be quite knowledgeable messaged me this morning. She thinks that it may be Dutch Delft. Maybe someone has a book on the subject?

 

appreciate the effort! I will look in that direction to see what I might find