Trying to identify this family crest on 18ct signet

Hello I’m Trying to identify this family crest on 18ct signet

The 18ct signet ring has uk hallmarks

 

I can see 3 wheat sheafs and the motto per honor virtus que

thanks

 

It could well belong to an institution and not a family. Does the ring have any marks?

Debora

 

And doesn't it read "Per Honor Virtusque"?

Debora

 

Through Honour and Virtue.

 

Easier to read this way I think.

 

Ah yes

 

Thank you @say_it_slowly !
I don't know why people don't correct that iPhone flip before they post pictures. A long time ago someone posted instructions for phone settings to prevent that in the first place.

 

I will
Try to post photos of the full uk hallmarks and the and makers mark

 

Fun fact the ring is size X and nearly 30g so I would think very unlikely it was made for someone’s little finger the way they are meant to be worn in the uk. More likely for the index finger.

 

Thank you

Hi

These are the clearest photos of the marks I could take

 

AI says:

The image shows a signet ring with a coat of arms and the Latin phrase "PER HONOR VIRTUSQUE". This phrase translates to "Through honor and virtue" and is the motto of the Scottish clan MacMillan.

• The coat of arms features a shield divided into three sections.
• The top two sections each contain a cross pattee, a type of cross with arms that are narrow at the center and wider at the ends.
• The middle two sections contain what appears to be a sheaf of wheat.
• The bottom section contains a larger cross pattee."

The London date letter appears to be a lowercase "d"? Perhaps for 2003. If so, the ring is fairly modern and that might help explain the larger size, people nowadays don't seem to wear pinkie rings like they used to.

(Oddly, trying to search "per honor virtusque" and clan MacMillan doesn't appear to support the association...? Anyway, an avenue worth pursuing, I guess.)

From silvermakersmarks.co.uk:

2003


Maker RJB, Dates Seen 1985:
(No further info is given by the website on this maker but apparently he was still in business in 2003, if your date letter is indeed a lowercase "d".)

 

Brightened & contrasted......looks to be R J B, with a small 's' near the top right of the R.........I suppose that could be a possible 'K' instead of 'R'.........?

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This is what is in Fairbairn's Crests of the Families of Great Britain and Ireland on the MacMillans.

 

Yes, I'm getting different information from the internet too.

Debora