Featured Help-type/age of Japanese charger ?

12 3/4" across,1/8" thick, 2.90 pounds,it has a very light blue cast to the glaze.Can't quite tell if the pattern is entirely hand painted or if the basic pattern was laid down first (printed/transferware) and then colors,washes,gilt laid in.
The basic motif seems to be of an unwinding scroll (tubular object) surrounded by leaves of some kind.
No signature,few tiny specks of frit/rust on back rim base,some pigment & gild loss on front,some waviness to surface (last pic).

 

Now that's interesting. I wonder what that cylindrical thing is. Thought it was a candle first. 20th c I think.

 

I wondered abt the cylinder too & then found the same shape on a few other chargers.
Re 20th Century-most 20th Cent pieces are marked but prob not all,could also be an early 20th cent piece.Like to see more wear & frit,etc on base rim for deep age.
Few other (albeit better quality) examples of scroll motif-

 

I think its a scroll ? maybe in a cover ?

 

They all look to me like rolls (bolts?) of fabric.

 

A scroll! Of course. I have seen it more often with other scholar's items as decoration. I rather like the one with geometric design that you posted.

 

This seems to have a very loose design compared to most Imari I've reviewed.Trad Imari compositions seem to my amateur's eyes much more formal and generally are sectioned in a collage-like manner.
Here's a few examples-the top piece is very formal,arranged like a kaleidoscope.The lower piece is sectioned into two main visual sections.
My piece is much looser,perhaps because (even though unsigned-generally meaning 19th Century) this is a more modern 20th piece.
This looser arrangement could either be called 'inventive & innovative'', or 'loose & sloppy'.
PS-Look how tight the painting is on the lower example !

 

News about this piece-

From the Bid Amount Forum (attached to Peter Combs Site). Free to join & all members can respond. Mr. Combs estimates for a fee.

My Question-'Weird Primitive Imari- Maker, Real or Fantasy ?'

'At best this charger is very late Meiji and could be early Taisho period.
The reasoning is that there is only one spur mark on the base. If it was say early Meiji period then because of its size one would expect to see multiple spur marks.
By the end of the Meiji it was common to see one spur and also during the Taisho period. By the start of the Showa period 1926-85 you would rarely see any spur marks.'
-Mark

'Arita plate in Imari brocade pattern style would cover it.'
-Julia

 

Polite, responsive and seemingly knowledgeable bunch over there..