Featured Japanese Letter Box with double family crests

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by shamster, Nov 8, 2025.

  1. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    So the second finest Japanese box in my collection has arrived this morning! Won from an online auction in Japan. A black lacquered fubako/ letter box this time, 34cm in length, painted with wrapped narcissus and camellia- both winter flowers to be noted. 88f601d6342f6046ce2497feff6edf99.jpeg IMG_4664.jpeg

    But the biggest mystery is the two Kamon/family crests on the lid. The position and accuracy of them make me wonder if this could be a wedding gift or dowry piece? Will post more details in the comment section of my own research.

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    Any thoughts on age and purpose just let me know! If not, please just enjoy its beauty!
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  2. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    So the closest to the circled plum will be these two: precisely, the first one in a circle would be identical to mine
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    and for the triple fan: ab5751a889f486593453f1f68ef1ec1e.jpeg But the number of bones is also a variation which may lead to a different family or branch, as mine has ten bones in each fan.

    I don’t have much idea how Kamon really works tho
     
  3. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

  4. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Also, as winter flowers, narcissus and camellia are still a rare match in Makie art as I don’t find historical examples. Only find is this bowl dated to end of Edo fae5d72fd66001833a4a856f43488107.jpeg
     
  5. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    I think your assumption is correct @shamster
    Two different crests on the same item would mean a union of some sort. possible a marriage. I spoke with a Japanese friend of mine on this matter, and he agrees.
    This box may have held a Union or Wedding certificate.
    Beautiful box. You are lucky to have found it.

    Mikey
     
  6. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Thank you so much Mikey! I know sometimes Kamon is just a decorative pattern, but if that’s genuine symbol of clans that would make it even more precious:shame::joyful: yes I am so glad to have won it
     
  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  8. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Sometimes truth lies within a simple word, right? I totally agree :p
     
  9. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    A comparison between my favorite two Fubakos :D ac8a8e4f8edc7d675e7d8be32bf3aff5.jpeg
    Have another, super cheap so not bothering taking it out from my cabinet :playful:
     
  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    doesn't look that old to me , and it's cracked , so not a museum item either..
     
  11. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    The piece screams late Edo.
    I wouldn't hesitate saying the symbols are real, but as you know an expert would have to verify .
    Good luck researching the clans. The one box I have with a Kamon turned out to be used by several clans.
    Mikey
     
  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That was my impression too. So a nice oldie, and a timeless beauty.
     
  13. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Wow better than I thought… I always have problem dating Japanese lacquerware because sometimes the design is way too fashionable that I won’t be surprised to see on a modern piece!

    I mean just look at these Edo pieces:eek:: 29eef46296d614e4e75b24aa384c6460.jpeg 3d7862eb7bc37fe32bbfb63f8559bbae.jpeg
     
  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    And the condition is often excellent too. I have seen perfect pieces from the 17th century.
    But there are certain styles in certain periods, that helps. It has been too long since I studied Japanese lacquer designs to some degree, so my knowledge is more than rusty. Good to have Mikey on board.:)
     
  15. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Indeed! Even for this box of mine the lacquer is super smooth for a more than hundred years old object.
    The best I can do so far is spotting some very delicate, shinny works from Meiji era. The rest nah. So I will ask knowledgeable people here, and always get surprised when I know it’s actually older!
     
  16. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Well, it's another stunner! Those crests are cool, too.
     
  17. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    I won’t post a box not qualified as a stunner :D always the best in my collection!
     
  18. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Very beautiful box. I must admit the condition is unbelievable to me for something that old (I would have never guessed)
     
  19. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Also there’s actually a lot of scratches at the bottom, meaning it’s been used yet still well cared!
     
  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Off topic:
    Just wondering, Shammie (because I am nosey:playful:). Do you have to pay import duties when you import something from Japan into China?
     
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