Featured Talent You Don't See Anymore

Discussion in 'Art' started by Snowman Cometh, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:01 PM.

  1. Snowman Cometh

    Snowman Cometh Well-Known Member

    I recently won a reproduction set of Salvador Dali's Four Seasons. It's from 1984 and the four prints are beyond wonderful if you appreciate his work. I can't imagine many hate him. But, I do know a few who think he's "eh" and "okay". Which is just wrong. No one has to like anything they don't like. But, you can't factually insult their talent. There's nothing "eh" or "okay" about his work.

    SPRING
    Spring.JPG
    SUMMER
    Summer.JPG
    FALL
    Autumn.JPG
    WINTER
    Winter.JPG
    This is the folder they came in. I love nice presentations.
    Dali4Seasons.JPG
     
  2. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    of course he's better than eh okay.........but its still "not wrong" if you think that about him........if you're thinking it ;)
     
  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Makes more sense.
     
  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That is probably not based on his artistry, but on his political and racist views. He also dedicated three paintings to Hitler.
    There are different interpretations about his reasons why, but whatever they were, he was a great artist.
     
  6. Snowman Cometh

    Snowman Cometh Well-Known Member

    It absolutely is wrong. If just thinking it makes it correct, 1 + 1 could equal 3. Eh and okay diminish talent. In order to be correct you have to acknowledge the talent.

    I hate Eddie Van Halen, and Angus Young. I'd say I can't stand the music, and give a reason why I don't like their soloing. But, I would never diminish the immense talent they both have. Eddie and Angus are not eh okay or just good players. They excel at what they do. I just don't appreciate notes without meaning. Eddie's a showman on the guitar. Magnificent flash, just not enough substance.
    I thought it was wrong as I naming photos of the prints. I don't speak the language on the prints, so instead of translating I went here -

    https://lockportstreetgallery.com/dali/salvador-dali-four-seasons/

    I copied what they have. But, I was thinking as I was doing it, this doesn't seem right. But, they are obviously smarter than me. So, I copied them.

    I own a beautiful edition of Dali's The Divine Comedy. It's a German edition. It has the 100 prints, individually matted in three leather bound cases. I bought it at the height of covid. So, NO ONE was buying anything at auction. I was the only bidder. Since our TH is not large, I can't hang 100 prints. So, I had one frame custom made, and hang a different print each month. I've had the set for over 3 years and I just recently finished Dante's time in Hell. Each month I go to lockstreetport to make sure I'm hanging the correct print. At some point in Inferno I hung the wrong one, and as I read the Canto, I couldn't understand what Dali was thinking as he created the art. There are a few that being the correct print, still don't match the Canto. I think that's a language issue. I love his work. That guy had some mind, and talent.
    Did he really? I have to look that up. This is the first I'm reading or hearing about this.
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    This is one of them:

    https://www.museoreinasofia.es/en/collections/artwork/enigma-hitler

    "For the Surrealists – who had never been comfortable with the brazen way in which Salvador Dalí exhibited his sexual obsessions in public – Dalí’s representation of Hitler was beyond the pale, and it was decided to expel him from the group led by André Breton."

    More on his racism and Hitler fascination:

    https://www.lemonde.fr/en/internati...ined-by-dali-is-hard-to-accept_5996321_4.html

    https://www.openculture.com/2018/03...-glorification-of-hitlerian-fascism-1934.html
     
  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    One thing led to another. Before that, he was a Spanish Nationalist and supporter of Franco.

    Debora
     
  9. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    blimey, thats even stronger than :meh: think i'd rather be eh okayed ;)
     
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  10. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    the point you were making i agree with though snowy, i would think a lot of people don't 'get it'

    and will always probably be like that
     
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  11. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    Dedicated to Hitler in what way? Approve or Disapprove? Isn't Dali's art the exact type of work that Hitler hated and tried to eliminate or suppress?
     
  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Approve.
    I don't think Dalí was bothered by the Nazi idea of Entartete Kunst, he always did his own thing anyway. And Hitler may not have known that Dalí dedicated work to him. Hitler certainly couldn't touch Dalí, he wasn't German and didn't work in Germany.
     
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  13. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Well i love them . In this information age we are too often disappointed in those who's work we admire. Turns out many werent such nice people. I did not know about his views of Hitler and Franco. Very sad.
     
  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    True. Which doesn't mean they weren't excellent artists. One of my favourite painters, Caravaggio, was a downright nasty and violent man. But boy, could he paint.
     
  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I have , & bought & sold work by a very talented unique NWC artist.... who was cast out of his Reserve , for his conjugal violence !
    I saw him exit a Gallery in Gastown Vancouver , & I immediately crossed the street to avoid a confrontation .....!

    but....... I luv his work...... :shame::shame:
     
  16. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member

    Mark me down as curious as to the artist. People of the NWC have had difficult lives for a very long time (thrust upon them) and this tends to lead to addiction and a host of difficulties . . . it's all quite painful for noble people.
     
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  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Indeed....... but there comes a point at which on an individual level , you have to own your actions , and seek help.
    His community , must have acted , for the health and welfare of the community as a whole ...

    My Mi'kmah friend never spoke to me of his time in residential school......or his tour in 'Nam ......... but none of that stopped him from building a better life for himself !
     
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  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Seems to me that Dalí was nothing if not a provocateur & that his public support of Hitler may have been adopted precisely to incite outrage & notoriety. I can easily imagine that he would have seen himself as a Nietzschean superman, an artist, not bound by the pedestrian morality of the rest of us. And both members of the funny mustache club.
     
  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I was having trouble reconciling the images with the seasons as labeled, so went searching for a source that could confirm or reassign. Discovered that he did other seasons series over the years. Was glad to finally find your set with the names of the seasons on the prints. High school French was adequate to sort things out.
     
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  20. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Oops! Happens to the best of us.
     
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